[X2Go-User] x2go-user Digest, Vol 119, Issue 3

Thu Jun 13 03:09:46 CEST 2024

Hi Sai
thank you for clearing this up. I think xwayland is still running on
the server, that is why it is luckily still working.

Thanks,

Markus

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 at 13:56, sairuk <sairuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Markus,
>
> check your env vars, specifically XDG_SESSION_TYPE will tell you wayland or x11 ..... as for versions dpkg -l | grep wayland might get you there.
>
> x2go doesn't work with wayland at all unless that has changed recently, so the server end always needs to be x11. Remembering wayland is a moving target. Largely though it depends on how you've configured your target session. If you are running kdrive that is its own manager seperate to both wayland and x11.
>
> On a wayland client machine, the client runs in the x11 compatibility layer (xwayland) you can list xwayland based windows with xlsclients -l
>
> arch doco has some good general info on wayland https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland
>
> sai
>
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 12:10, Sagittarius-A Black Hole <nigratruo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> using QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb does fix the issue for me, I can log in and
>> use X2goclient.
>>
>> This is from a Debian Stable (Bookworm) laptop running Plasma (KDE) to
>> a server running the very same software. How can I find the version of
>> the components being used?
>> At this point, I'm not even sure anymore if I'm still using some X11
>> components or just wayland. I know there is a compatibility layer too,
>> which makes it more confusing.
>> I would assume that X2go (based on certain X11 libs (NX / Nomachine)
>> does not even work without that compatibility layer or am I mistaken
>> about that?
>>
>> Thank you for the workaround, it makes my life a lot easier, as I
>> depend on X2go for daily terminal server use.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 22 May 2024 at 15:31, sairuk <sairuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > on a wayland based client machine QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb does permit the client to run somewhat, however when I was testing this some time ago two problems resulted in an unusable experience
>> > - client window resizing eventually stopped worked i.e dragging, fullscreen etc
>> > - keyboard input was lost in the client window
>> >
>> > arguably these may have the same root cause, my testing was only out of curiosity so it wasn't exhaustive. I eventually reverted to X11 for this and other performance reasons generally
>> >
>> > Closing the client whilst running on wayland and restarting the client worked for a time then the same problems would occur.
>> >
>> > Client machine was KDE, I am not sure what their wayland implementation was at the time.I have not motivation to move to wayland as x2go is my primary interface locally.
>> >
>> > sai
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 22 May 2024 at 20:15, Ulrich Sibiller <ulrich.sibiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hm,
>> >>
>> >> is this bug about the x2goclient or is about NX or even kdrive? A lot
>> >> of guessing here....
>> >>
>> >> On Stackoverflow
>> >> (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21488072/what-is-the-use-of-various-qt-platform-plugins)
>> >> I find this regarding  QT_QPA_PLATFORM:
>> >>
>> >> xcb - Runs on an X11 server and is integrated into the X11 windowing
>> >> environment. Generally it won't behave correctly without a window
>> >> manager running as well. Can be made to work on Windows, given a
>> >> Windows implementation of xlib, if you want to, say, serve
>> >> applications from a Windows server to X11 thin terminals (typically
>> >> Unix boxes).
>> >>
>> >> So if the user has Wayland this is the wrong setting for the client
>> >> side, at least for the x2go client qt code. Depending on XWayland
>> >> seems wrong to me here.
>> >>
>> >> Clients inside the nx session are talking to the remote X server and
>> >> would require Xwayland. So I _think_ the only component that should
>> >> run with XWayland is the nxproxy. Setting the var you mentioned will
>> >> have the side effect of nxproxy finding the XWayland X-server that was
>> >> started for x2goclient. So a quick test would be to replace nxproxy by
>> >> a wrapper script that runs nxproxy with XWayland. I have no experience
>> >> in this wayland stuff, so I may be totally wrong. Until now I was
>> >> under the impression that XWayland is starts automatically if a client
>> >> tries to open a Display.
>> >>
>> >> Uli
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 8:15 AM Mike Gabriel
>> >> <mike.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > HI
>> >> >
>> >> > On  Mo 20 Mai 2024 21:34:47 CEST, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >> Hi,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I can't troubleshoot this issue. I have removed X2goclient from the
>> >> > >> Debian Stable (Bookworm) install, including all config, but when
>> >> > >> installing it fresh, it still does crash with a Segsev, is this bug
>> >> > >> known? I can't use X2go anymore on Linux, it just fails, without a way
>> >> > >> to find out what breaks. This issue has blocked me for many months
>> >> > >> now, it works on Windows, but most of my machines are running Linux.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Anybody have an idea what I can try next?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Thanks,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Markus
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hello,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > your bug report is a bit "unspecific". What desktop environment / window
>> >> > > manager are you using? What kind of session? Where are you connecting to?
>> >> > > How is your session configured? Have you tried pyhoca-cli and / or
>> >> > > pyhoca-gui?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Uli
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:54 AM Sagittarius-A Black Hole <
>> >> > > nigratruo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe it is about this issue?
>> >> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1042816
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the best approach to address this. As X2Go Client interacts
>> >> > with the remote X session, it surely would make sense to launch the
>> >> > complete X2Go Client process via QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb and require
>> >> > XWayland to run. Is that a viable approach? Where should we enforce
>> >> > that (that being the switched from Wayland display to X11 display)?
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
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