[X2Go-User] Browser jerks

Fri Dec 20 22:38:47 CET 2024

Thanks for the information.
I installed the 4.1.2.4 of the client (on Bodhi Linux) and checked "Start in X2GoKdrive (experimental)".
A first test with Google Chrome (Lubuntu server with LXDE) looked quite positive.

Is there an updated description for installing pxe for x2go?
I remembered that I could install it directly from the sources or using the package manager, but I can't find it there anymore.

Greeting,
Olaf

Am Tue, 17 Dec 2024 14:44:59 -0600
schrieb Oleksandr Shneyder <o.shneyder at phoca-gmbh.de>:

> You should not run the x2gokdriveclient directly. X2Go client is
> using it exactly same way as it's using nxproxy. Just in the session
> config of x2go client you need to select checkbox "run in x2gokdrive"
> and be sure that all needed components are installed
> (x2gokdriveclient on the client and x2gokdrive on the server). Apart
> of this, the configuration of the session is the same as when using
> NX protocol. X2Gokdrive also adapting the image quality to the
> network. When the picture is "static" it redraws it using PNG
> compression, so there are no JPG artifacts anymore.
> 
> 
> PS
> If you are using Windows, the "default" Windows client is too old and 
> don't have the x2gokdriveclient. But there is my custom build for 
> Windows somewhere on the packages.x2go.org
> 
> 
> Am 17.12.24 um 14:23 schrieb olafs6 at gmx.de:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > I already tested Chrome, Palemoon and all the browsers I could find
> > “back then”. As a result, there was either no relevant difference
> > in terms of stuttering, or the application that was most important
> > to us was not running in the respective browser. The latter was and
> > is the case with PaleMoon, which freezes when using the application.
> > 
> > I also tested various desktops and there were no relevant
> > improvements in terms of stuttering. I already know the comparison
> > video from back then.
> > 
> > The browser application is a very fast-running, industry-specific
> > application over the web, without any fuss, and we need it 24/7.
> > There is practically no alternative for us.
> > 
> > Therefore, I had no choice but to switch to LTSP. Since then, I've
> > missed the nice option of having my desktop available anywhere
> > without having to log out, etc.
> > 
> > Alex's report sounds very positive.
> > So I just tried installing kdrive, but somehow the client doesn't
> > want to work. Either I got an ancient installation description or
> > it's too complicated for me. But I'll take another look at it.
> > Everything was much easier with x2go.
> > 
> > ###
> > 
> > ~$ x2gokdriveclient
> > 
> > (x2gokdriveclient:156382): dbind-WARNING **: 21:14:51.559: Couldn't
> > register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible
> > causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the
> > message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout
> > expired, or the network connection was broken. qt.svg: Cannot open
> > file ':/img/pin.svg', because: No such file or directory qt.svg:
> > Cannot open file ':/img/pin.svg', because: No such file or
> > directory ../src/client.cpp:781:connectToServer():  Connecting to
> > remote host localhost:15000 over TCP
> > ../src/client.cpp:2121:socketError():  Connection refused
> > ../src/client.cpp:2649:reinitCaches():  Clearing all caches
> > ../src/client.cpp:2663:reinitCaches():  Done
> > 
> > ###
> > 
> > 
> > But I'll take another look at it.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for the feedback!
> > 
> > Olaf
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am Wed, 11 Dec 2024 00:37:03 +0100
> > schrieb Ulrich Sibiller <ulrich.sibiller at gmail.com>:
> >   
> >> For me Chrome is much faster than Firefox. You can try x2gokdrive,
> >> maybe it is faster
> >>
> >> Uli  
> > 
> > 
> > Am Wed, 11 Dec 2024 15:28:50 +0100
> > schrieb Stefan Baur <X2Go-ML-1 at baur-itcs.de>:
> >   
> >> Am 10.12.24 um 20:26 schrieb olafs6 at gmx.de:  
> >>> Hello!
> >>> Some time ago after years of use I largely replaced x2go with LTSP
> >>> because surfing in the browser was no longer practical. It jerked
> >>> so much that we couldn't work with it.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a real solution for this now?  
> >> Several, actually. Depending on how you use X2Go.
> >> First of all, Single Application Mode/Published Application Mode
> >> seems to be particularly ugly with browsers. I think it has to do
> >> with lack of XDAMAGE support in that mode or something like that?
> >> (Devs, feel free to chime in here, with a technical explanation)
> >> So using a Desktop Session (I would suggest MATE or XFCE with
> >> Compositing disabled, or something even more minimalistic like
> >> OpenBox) would improve things if you were using Single Application
> >> Mode/Published Application Mode in the past.
> >>
> >> Next, there is one browser that we know of that was forked off of
> >> Firefox before they introduced all the things that kill browser
> >> performance on remote displays. It's called Pale Moon. You might
> >> have to use the GTK2 version, though (they offer GTK2 and GTK3)?
> >> Again, something that the Devs should be able to answer in more
> >> detail.
> >>
> >> Last, as Uli already mentioned, you could try using X2Go-KDrive
> >> instead of X2Go-NX. This protocol was designed to allow the use of
> >> "modern", eye-candy-rich desktops like Gnome3 and KDE4 and above,
> >> but it also speeds up browser performance. Here's a quick video
> >> comparing the Chromium web browser using X2Go-NX on the left and
> >> using the new X2Go-KDrive on the right:
> >> <https://youtu.be/2n0IZo02Zrc>
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Stefan Baur  
> > 
> > 
> > Am Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:07:25 +0100 (CET)
> > schrieb o.shneyder at phoca-gmbh.de:
> >   
> >> Hello Olaf,
> >>
> >> my customers are using x2gokdrive productively since 2019. This
> >> protocol doesn't have the limitations of NX. It requires however
> >> better network than NX. In my opinion, if you are not hanging
> >> behind some old DSL connection, there is no reason to use NX
> >> anymore. I can, for example, watch full screen youtube videos with
> >> good quality in my office in Germany from my home in Mexico
> >> through VPN. Be sure that you are using the latest versions from
> >> heuler repo for both server and client when you are trying.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Alex  
> > 
> > 
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