[X2Go-User] Semi-Offtopic: The sorry state of Landline and Mobile Internet in Germany

[Oleksandr Shneyder]

Well, I think you missed a point. First of all I never told, that we
should immediately get rid of NX and forget about everyone who has a
slow connection. I'm just saying that the situation with Internet is
improving and will improve in the future. But even now, the examples
that you are bringing here, it's just a minority of all users. We are
concentrating now on this cases and forgetting about the majority of the
users, for who X2Go is becoming unattractive because at the moment it's
only working well with obsolete software. You all talking here about
only one use case and forgetting that X2Go is also widely used as TC
system and to access a desktops in LAN. And what about all users who
have a good Internet connections? For them the fact that they can't use
some of modern software is fatal. They going away from X2Go and will
never come back. X2Go is attractive not only because it works good with
legacy apps on slow nets. In this case they just would use FreeNX. It's
not only about connection protocol. It's also about usability of X2Go
client and server and all things around.

@Stefan: as project coordinator you are first of all people should think
about where are we going with X2Go and what happens in the future. I can
assure you, if we are only concentrating on NX, in several years X2Go
will be dead. And not just we'll have less cases with slow connections.
Also, we will have less legacy application, which are working better
with NX. With "modern" application, which are not using X11 features, NX
sucks. Just take as example the firefox with disabled xrender and look
how much better it works with x2gokdrive compared to NX on slow
connections.

Alex

Am 09.05.20 um 06:29 schrieb Sébastien Ducoulombier:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> Stefan Baur wrote:
>> in an adjacent thread, Alex made a statement that low-bandwidth internet
>> connections are a thing of the past, and thus NX is basically obsolete.
>>
>> I have personal experience to share which proves him wrong.
> 
> Here is mine : France 2020, rural area (village of less than 200 humans
> (but many more sheep)).
> 
> ADSL is below 2 Mbps downstream, 0.5 Mbps upstream.
> 
> Fibre-to-the-home was planned for 2017 but several times postponed.
> Now promised for 2021.
> 
> Currently I am using 4G/LTE and switching between 2 providers:
> * first provider speeds vary from 20 Mbps up and downstream at 5 am to
> less than 1 Mbps after 20:00.
> * second provider offers a constant 1 Mbps service, I use it as fallback
> when wife and kids watch Youtube.
> 
> Some of my users live nearby, so I know they do not get better speeds.
> 
> During the COVID 19 lockdown, many started working from home.
> 
> From a rescue tool, X2GoClient became their most important piece of
> software.
> 
> I advised them to download and install their usual tools onto their home
> computers (Thunderbird, Firefox and LibreOffice), then setup X2GoClient
> shared folders so they could work efficiently.
> 
> By the way, all these free software tools work on MacOSX, Windows and
> Gnu/Linux, which allowed all users to work from home.
> 
> I agree with Stephan:
>> So NX will be here for quite some time, there is a need for it, and for
>> less fancy, but lightweight desktops that work well with it.
> 
> We use XFCE4 and users like it.
> 
> 


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