<div dir="ltr">Hi Mike,<div><br></div><div>As the machines used as thin clients grow ever more powerful, at the same price and energy usage, the features available also keeps expanding. I have recently bought a Shuttle machine, that is physically smaller than my current thin clients, comes with the Atom D2550 (one of the newer Atom CPUs) which has two cores. I also put in 4gb of RAM, since it was almost the same price as a 2gb RAM module. Like Stephan wrote, without 686 (and in this case PAE) that system wouldn't be properly utilized. Even if it is somewhat overpowered for a thin client. As a side note, I am also testing out the <a href="http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-kit-dccp847dye.html">Intel NUC DCCP847DYE</a> which is a dual core celeron, but it is so small and (like the Shuttle) completely silent, but does not offer sound out, other than over HDMI.</div>
<div>Anyways, it is a matter of properly utilizing the hardware. It probably isn't that big a deal, but it would be nice to have.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/17 Stephan Wagner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephan.wagner@itos-gmbh.com" target="_blank">stephan.wagner@itos-gmbh.com</a>></span><br>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">I prefer 686-Kernel on a 32bit System, as it supports multiple cores.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">On Tuesday, 17. December 2013, Mike Gabriel wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Control: tag -1 moreinfo</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Hi Anders,</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> On Di 17 Dez 2013 11:23:31 CET, Anders Bruun Olsen wrote:</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > Package: x2gothinclientmanagement</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > Version: 1.1.0.1</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > I run my tftp/nfs server for my thin clients, on a 64-bit machine (a VM).</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > When I create a thinclient chroot with x2gothinclient_create, only the 486</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > kernel gets installed. I can use x2gothinclient_shell and use apt-get to</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > install linux-image-686, to get the 686 kernel installed. But upon doing</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > so, the reason for it not being auto installed is apparent: 64-bit machines</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > don't support PAE (not needed), and the deb package for linux-image-686</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > knows that this particular kernel is made for machines supporting PAE. I</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > can just say yes to the warnings, and I even though I end up with an error,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > the kernel does get installed. This is not optimal.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > I realize this is a problem (in this niche case, it probably "works as</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > intended") with Debian Wheezy, and not really a job for the developers of</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > x2go, but since I am running into this problem when using x2go, I am</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > reporting the problem here, and hopefully it will be sent upstream, if that</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> > is desirable.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> What is your reason for wanting to use the 686 kernel in the first </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> place. The reason I removed 686 support from the X2Go TCE is that it</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> (a) did not bring any feelable improvements while my TCEs ran under </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Debian squeeze _and_</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> (b) did not work fluently if the PXE server machine is a amd64 system</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Please enlight me, why 686 would be a sensible kernel alternative to </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> use here...</p>
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