[X2Go-Dev] Different behavior of X2Go Client from Desktop and TCE

Walid MOGHRABI w.moghrabi at servicemagic.eu
Fri May 18 09:36:34 CEST 2018


I definitely don't agree ... you're too developer centric ...
This MagicPixel thing *IN TCE MODE* is troubling for users and your workaround is NOT a good option because the desktop is minimized then, thanks to a little daemon running, maximized again which is extremely confusing and frustrating for users.
In TCE mode, there is no need for such thing and there MUST be a way to disabling it completely.
This is what has been done by a server side switch which is fine for most *TCE* cases, now, I can understand that it can be desirable to keep that stuff for some other use cases but then, don't do tricks like that, just keep it and inform your users OR add the ability to disable this behaviour client side if disabling it server side really bothers you.


Regards,
Walid Moghrabi

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De: "Stefan Baur" <X2Go-ML-1 at baur-itcs.de> 
À: x2go-dev at lists.x2go.org 
Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Mai 2018 00:49:29 
Objet: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Different behavior of X2Go Client from Desktop and TCE 

Am 18.05.2018 um 00:39 schrieb Nable: 
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:18 AM, Stefan Baur <X2Go-ML-1 at baur-itcs.de 
> <mailto:X2Go-ML-1 at baur-itcs.de>> wrote: 
> 
> [...] 
> The problem arises on systems that have a Window Manager (like OpenBox), 
> but no task bar, so no way to un-minimize the X2Go/NX-window once the 
> user hits the magic pixel. 

> Are you sure that task bar is required? AFAIK any tool with window 
> switching ability (e.g. bbkeys, xdotool, some custom quick-and-dirty 
> libwnck script) would work, wouldn't it? 

Well, we are using xdotool in one of our workarounds. But, in a 
ThinClient environment, such a workaround must either function 
automatically (detect minimize and un-minimize instantly), or give the 
user some visual indication that X2GoClient hasn't crashed, but just 
needs to be un-minimized. The way to do this, because even an only 
marginally trained user would still understand this, is showing a task 
bar with an X2Go icon. 
Otherwise, all the user sees is a completely blue screen once they hit 
the magic pixel. An advanced user might try key combinations like 
Alt+Tab, but I wouldn't be sure that they help restoring the window to 
fullscreen. 

Oh, and as stated above, we tried xdotool for a workaround, but sadly, 
it's not as simple as it seems and can trigger some nasty side-effects. 
That's why we went for the other workaround - disabling OpenBox as soon 
as the NX window spawns, then restarting it afterwards, once it has been 
closed. 

Kind Regards, 
Stefan Baur 

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