[X2go-dev] wayland remote desktop comment by

Gerry Reno greno at verizon.net
Thu Feb 3 16:54:52 CET 2011


On 02/03/2011 09:35 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 09:19 -0500, brian mullan wrote:
>   
>> Per Wayland FAQ: Is Wayland network transparent / does it support
>> remote rendering?
>> No, that is outside the scope of Wayland. <snip>
>>
>>
>> It is also possible to put a remoting protocol into a wayland
>> compositor, either a standalone remoting compositor or as a part of a
>> full desktop compositor. This will let us forward native Wayland
>> applications. The standalone compositor could let you log into a
>> server and run an application back on your desktop. Building the
>> fowarding into the desktop compositor, could let you export or share a
>> window on the fly with a remote wayland compositor, for example a
>> friends desktop.
>>     
> <snip>
> I am WAY out of my depth here but that last paragraph is really
> interesting and I wonder if it provides an opportunity for X2Go to think
> outside the box.  Why do we need NX? To forward X traffic in a WAN
> friendly way to the remote X Server.  So, what if we bypass it
> completely - completely eliminate the need to transmit, cache, compress,
> optimize X traffic.  Does the above mean we can just us our SSH
> forwarding to send the Wayland traffic to a compositor on the remote
> side and not worry about X over a network? - John
>
>   

Nope.  Wayland is not network transparent.

For network transparency you would still have to layer X on top of Wayland.

Right now there is no test implementation of Wayland with an X layer
where we could test this out.

And I am not sure whether Wayland is a good idea to have as the
'default' display technology in Ubuntu.

I don't think most Ubuntu users are gamers, but rather folks that from
time to time rely upon the fact that Linux has always natively had a
network transparent display technology (X) that could be used to
remotely display apps and desktops.  That is why I think X should remain
the default and people should be able to enable "Wayland" if they want
it for fast gaming.  And not the other way around.


Regards,
Gerry




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