[X2go-dev] GPL violations

[John A. Sullivan III]

I'm sure dragging the developers into court will do wonders for the
progress of the project.  Good night, Joerg - John

On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 00:58 +0200, Jörg Sawatzki wrote:
> Thank you for sending me away, John! Very friendly.
> I will go away - after I got the source of the software running on my
> computer right now! And not the source of the software that is released
> in a couple of months. Please respect that this is my guaranteed right
> and that I won't go away before I have enforced it.
> And I will do that - even if I need a lawyer and a judge. This is not a
> banana republic where you can only follow the laws and requirements if
> you like them or if you have time to do that.
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 22.09.2010, 18:01 -0400 schrieb John A. Sullivan III:
> > We're not treating you like an idiot for correctly pointing out the
> > things that should be done; we are grateful for that.  We're treating
> > you like an idiot for the way you are going about it.
> > 
> > Yes, they should follow the requirements of the GPL.  Yes, they did not
> > have to accede to the many requests to have access to the plugin before
> > they were really ready to give either the binaries or the source to
> > everyone.  Yes, they did not have to share any of this project but could
> > have kept it as a simple in-house project.  Given all of of those yeses,
> > I do eagerly await the release of the source and will wait until it is
> > released realizing that the delay hurts me but not more than not having
> > the project at all.  In fact, I eagerly await the time when our business
> > turns cash positive so we can financially support the project.  If they
> > were a corporation making a profit off the backs of open source
> > developers and hoarding the source code for nefarious reasons, I'd be
> > far less patient.  If you are tired of waiting, go away.  Peace - John
> > 
> > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 23:26 +0200, Jörg Sawatzki wrote:
> > > Tobias,
> > > 
> > > it is very nice that you want to protect the two. 
> > > Oh yes, and I am a stupid idiot who unnecessarily "bugs" people because
> > > he wants to get his right.
> > > I sometimes wonder if we live in a banana republic when people tell me
> > > heaps of reasons why they don't have to follow the law...
> > > 
> > > I am asking for the source for a month or two. Taking the build
> > > environment, putting it in a .tar archive and uploading it to a
> > > webserver takes not more than ONE MINUTE and it would absolutely
> > > fullfill the requirements of the GPL and I would never ever have been
> > > complaining. Do I expect too much if I ask him to take ONE MINUTE to
> > > follow the laws and license requirements? 
> > > 
> > > And btw. I want the code of the plugin that I have downloaded right now.
> > > And not the code of a polished release that comes out next year or so!
> > > I want to submit extensions and bugfixes BEFORE the next release and not
> > > after!
> > > 
> > > But thank you for treating me like an idiot just because I fight for my
> > > right.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jörg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am Mittwoch, den 22.09.2010, 23:04 +0200 schrieb das.t:
> > > > the developers were so nice and _due_to_great_demand_ to give us a PREVEW 
> > > > of what is going to come. this was pure generosity. nothing has been 
> > > > released, this is absolutely inofficial and i am _more_than_sure_ that    
> > > > we _are_ going to get the source code. 
> > > > 
> > > > if you are reading this list you will know that heinz is on vacation, so  
> > > > there will nothing happen right now. i do not want him to work now as i   
> > > > know how stressed he is. give him a rest!!! 
> > > > 
> > > > if you say x2go is rubish and can be done within minuts - fine, then go 
> > > > for it. but please do not bug people who are investing more than enough in 
> > > > oss! especially stop threatening them in this absolutely unnecessarily 
> > > > rude manner.
> > > > 
> > > > if you think a project is rubish, do something better. 
> > > > 
> > > > enough said. i am off this threat now.
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