[X2go-dev] Disappearing Mouse on Windows 7

brian mullan bmullan.mail at gmail.com
Sun Oct 31 10:36:29 CET 2010 

I've not seen this problem yet but I don't use my Windows 7 x2go client as
much as my linux client.

Just to not overlook the obvious... maybe this is a Windows 7 problem?
I thought to go search for reported problems with Windows 7 and found the
following:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproui/thread/46c91bbe-3cf2-4d47-bca6-a08a701941dc

*My mouse pointer disappears after a few minutes of inactivity. When I
toucih the mouse pad, a square appears with little blue dots appears for a
second or two, then goes away. The mouse pointer at this point may or may
not re-appear. If not, it takes a lot of moving the mouse around to get the
pointer back.*

* I know there is a trick, if you turn on mouse trails and set the trails to
the lowest setting, it never disappears. BUT I have certain games which do
not work with mouse trails on.*

I don't know if the above is some "well-known" solution or not but that
message lead me to Microsoft's own site and a search for "Windows 7
disappearing mouse" which returns many people reporting the problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?mode=r&query=disappearing+mouse+windows+7&spid=global&catalog=LCID%3D1033&1033comm=1&ast=25&ast=28&res=10

Whatever the solution for those of you having the problem I'd first see if
the general Microsoft population is reporting the problem using some of the
same hardware or Windows 7 settings that you have.
Perhaps that will lead to a solution.

Brian




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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:06:03 +0200
> From: Dick Kniep<dick.kniep at lindix.nl>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
> Message-ID: <vmime.4ccc0a2b.81c.f66469a3a52876 at mail.pl20>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Hi List,
>
> We (Mike Gabriel and myself) are currently developing a new Python based
> (gui)client. For me the main reason was the instability of XMing, the
> X-server that is incorporated in the current X2go client. The new Python
> client will have a configurable X-server. So if you want to use Cygwin/X it
> is OK, if you want to use Xming it is OK, and if you want to use a
> commercial X-server that should work also.
>
> We hope to have a working copy at the end of next week. Off course that
> will be Beta, but should be usable nevertheless and should have all features
> included.
>
> After that testing should be done on Windows and Mac. I hope we can start
> packaging the whole thing after next week.
>
> (I am an incurable optimist!)
>
> Cheers
> Dick Kniep
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: John A. Sullivan III <jsullivan at opensourcedevel.com<lt%3Bjsullivan at opensourcedevel.com>
> >
> Verzonden: wo 27-10-10 18:04:10
> Aan: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de;
> Onderwerp: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
>
> > On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 11:56 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
> > > On 10/27/2010 07:51 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > >> Hello Gerry,
> > > >>
> > > >> Am 26.10.2010 03:59, schrieb Gerry Reno:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 10/25/2010 07:08 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 00:58 +0200, Dick Kniep
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> hi Gerry,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> John,
> > > >>> The only real X-server choices on win32 are cygwin/X
> and Xming. I
> > > >>> don't
> > > >>> think wxPython changes that.
> > > >>>
> > > >> As we are looking for a solution on this problem too, I
> really would
> > > >> be
> > > >> interested in your ideas. As Xming is not free available
> on XOrg 7*
> > > >> base, this is a big issue for future development.
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe someone knows about a third X-Server for Windows?
> > > >>
> > > >> best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Heinz
> > > >>
> > > > How about http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > There have been a number of lesser attempts at creating an
> X-server for
> > > Windows over the years but none of them were as good as Xming or
> > > Cygwin.  I haven't tried this vcxsrv yet and hopefully it is
> better than
> > > some of the previous attempts.  The project looks to be about a
> year old
> > > and the project page looks recently active which is a good sign.
> > > Requires Visual Studio to compile.
> > >
> > > Heinz, would you have to do a special client release to support
> it?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Gerry
> > <snip>
> > I wonder if one could use the 3.0.1-2 Windows client to test.  If I
> > recall correctly, that version gave an option to install Xming,
> cygwin,
> > or nothing and used whatever XServer was available - John
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > X2go-dev mailing list
> > X2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
> &gt <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev%0A&gt>;
> > !DSPAM:4cc84d7a39771192315260!
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:06:10 +0200
> From: Dick Kniep<dick.kniep at lindix.nl>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
> Message-ID: <vmime.4ccc0a32.81c.616ed73a33f420d6 at mail.pl20>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Hi List,
>
> We (Mike Gabriel and myself) are currently developing a new Python based
> (gui)client. For me the main reason was the instability of XMing, the
> X-server that is incorporated in the current X2go client. The new Python
> client will have a configurable X-server. So if you want to use Cygwin/X it
> is OK, if you want to use Xming it is OK, and if you want to use a
> commercial X-server that should work also.
>
> We hope to have a working copy at the end of next week. Off course that
> will be Beta, but should be usable nevertheless and should have all features
> included.
>
> After that testing should be done on Windows and Mac. I hope we can start
> packaging the whole thing after next week.
>
> (I am an incurable optimist!)
>
> Cheers
> Dick Kniep
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: John A. Sullivan III <jsullivan at opensourcedevel.com<lt%3Bjsullivan at opensourcedevel.com>
> >
> Verzonden: wo 27-10-10 18:04:10
> Aan: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de;
> Onderwerp: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
>
> > On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 11:56 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
> > > On 10/27/2010 07:51 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > >> Hello Gerry,
> > > >>
> > > >> Am 26.10.2010 03:59, schrieb Gerry Reno:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 10/25/2010 07:08 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 00:58 +0200, Dick Kniep
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> hi Gerry,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> John,
> > > >>> The only real X-server choices on win32 are cygwin/X
> and Xming. I
> > > >>> don't
> > > >>> think wxPython changes that.
> > > >>>
> > > >> As we are looking for a solution on this problem too, I
> really would
> > > >> be
> > > >> interested in your ideas. As Xming is not free available
> on XOrg 7*
> > > >> base, this is a big issue for future development.
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe someone knows about a third X-Server for Windows?
> > > >>
> > > >> best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Heinz
> > > >>
> > > > How about http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > There have been a number of lesser attempts at creating an
> X-server for
> > > Windows over the years but none of them were as good as Xming or
> > > Cygwin.  I haven't tried this vcxsrv yet and hopefully it is
> better than
> > > some of the previous attempts.  The project looks to be about a
> year old
> > > and the project page looks recently active which is a good sign.
> > > Requires Visual Studio to compile.
> > >
> > > Heinz, would you have to do a special client release to support
> it?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Gerry
> > <snip>
> > I wonder if one could use the 3.0.1-2 Windows client to test.  If I
> > recall correctly, that version gave an option to install Xming,
> cygwin,
> > or nothing and used whatever XServer was available - John
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > X2go-dev mailing list
> > X2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
> &gt <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev%0A&gt>;
> > !DSPAM:4cc84d7a39771192315260!
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:16:22 +0200
> From: Dick Kniep<dick.kniep at lindix.nl>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
> Message-ID: <vmime.4ccc0c96.81c.4c48867a2d74b396 at mail.pl20>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Hi Gerry,
>
> I donated 10 pounds and tested the current payed XMing code. However that
> code crashes almost as frequently as the GPL code. If you start a session
> with XMing and move your mouse a bit around, the X-server crashes (on
> Windows 7). I haven't tested on Windows XP or Vista.
>
> As I have written before, the python client will have a configurable
> X-server, so vcxsrv would certainly be tested!
>
> Cheers,
> Dick Kniep
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net <lt%3Bgreno at verizon.net>>
> Verzonden: wo 27-10-10 17:56:44
> Aan: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de;
> Onderwerp: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
>
> > On 10/27/2010 07:51 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >> Hello Gerry,
> > >>
> > >> Am 26.10.2010 03:59, schrieb Gerry Reno:
> > >>
> > >>> On 10/25/2010 07:08 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 00:58 +0200, Dick Kniep wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> hi Gerry,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>> John,
> > >>> The only real X-server choices on win32 are cygwin/X and
> Xming. I
> > >>> don't
> > >>> think wxPython changes that.
> > >>>
> > >> As we are looking for a solution on this problem too, I
> really would
> > >> be
> > >> interested in your ideas. As Xming is not free available on
> XOrg 7*
> > >> base, this is a big issue for future development.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe someone knows about a third X-Server for Windows?
> > >>
> > >> best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Heinz
> > >>
> > > How about http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ ?
> > >
> >
> > There have been a number of lesser attempts at creating an X-server
> for
> > Windows over the years but none of them were as good as Xming or
> > Cygwin.  I haven't tried this vcxsrv yet and hopefully it is better
> than
> > some of the previous attempts.  The project looks to be about a year
> old
> > and the project page looks recently active which is a good sign.
> > Requires Visual Studio to compile.
> >
> > Heinz, would you have to do a special client release to support it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > X2go-dev mailing list
> > X2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
> &gt <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev%0A&gt>;
> > !DSPAM:4cc84bbc35981648121434!
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 11:12:58 -0400
> From: Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
> Message-ID: <4CCC35FA.7000700 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 10/30/2010 08:16 AM, Dick Kniep wrote:
> > Hi Gerry,
> >
> > I donated 10 pounds and tested the current payed XMing code. However that
> code crashes almost as frequently as the GPL code. If you start a session
> with XMing and move your mouse a bit around, the X-server crashes (on
> Windows 7). I haven't tested on Windows XP or Vista.
> >
> > As I have written before, the python client will have a configurable
> X-server, so vcxsrv would certainly be tested!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dick Kniep
> >
> >
>
> That Xming crash could be specific to Windows 7.  Check XP when you have
> a chance and see if it happens there.
>
> Like the configurable X-server idea.  Flexibility is a good thing.
>
>
> Regards,
> Gerry
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:00:24 +0200
> From: Mike Gabriel <m.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de, Dick Kniep <dick.kniep at lindix.nl>
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
> Message-ID: <20101030230024.53343e9gj2fvayco at mail.das-netzwerkteam.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed"
>
> On Sa 30 Okt 2010 14:06:10 CEST Dick Kniep wrote:
>
> > We hope to have a working copy at the end of next week. Off course
> > that will be Beta, but should be usable nevertheless and should have
> > all features included.
> >
> > After that testing should be done on Windows and Mac. I hope we can
> > start packaging the whole thing after next week.
> >
> > (I am an incurable optimist!)
>
> Dick is making me scared...
>
> ;-)
> Mike
>
> --
>
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>
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>
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>
> https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:11:41 +0200
> From: Mike Gabriel <m.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: [X2go-dev] FYI: Status of X2go Git preparations
> Message-ID: <20101030231141.97671ls28a8jxr0t at mail.das-netzwerkteam.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed"
>
> Dear list,
>
> [In the role of future Git Admin for X2go I send you the following
> information. Sending this info had already been agreed on a week ago,
> however, in a very exciting and also strenuous last week, sending this
> mail to the X2go-dev list simply got lost temporarily on my TODO list.
> Sorry for that!!!]
>
> For those who are interested in the X2go public Git preparations: you
> can watch the X2go developers (Heinz and Alex) work as they prepare
> the latest X2go code for public Git at their sandbox site:
> http://git.x2go.org
>
> The Git sandbox site can be viewed in a web browser, Git
> checkouts/pulls, however, are not possible there.
>
> Currently, the plan is to restructure the X2go source tree a little
> more in order to make working with it more intuitively for us all.
>
> For this process Heinz and Alex still need a little more time (as they
> do it after they have come home from work and there are still a few
> issues to discuss). However, with the Git preparation sandbox (see
> above link) you can already grab a preview of the official community
> repository later on presented at (pullable & branch-pushable) BerliOS.
>
> And again our offer: if you intend to work on your own blend of X2go
> you are invited to also share your work on a branch of our
> nearly-there public Git repository at BerliOS. If you are interested
> in collaboration, please sign up at BerliOS as a developer...
> http://developer.berlios.de/account/register.php
>
> ... and send us an email with your BerliOS login name and your
> preferred X2go branch name. Please let us also know about the features
> or modifications that you intend to add to X2go (out of pure curiosity).
>
> Please send your Git branching requests to: git-admin at x2go.org
>
> Our current timeline for X2go Git is to push the Git sandbox to
> BerliOS before the end of November 2010.
>
> light+love,
> Mike
>
> --
>
> DAS-NETZWERKTEAM
> mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen
> fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419
>
> mail: m.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de
>
> freeBusy:
>
> https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:08:36 -0400
> From: Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] FYI: Status of X2go Git preparations
> Message-ID: <4CCCA574.1070404 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 10/30/2010 05:11 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > [In the role of future Git Admin for X2go I send you the following
> > information. Sending this info had already been agreed on a week ago,
> > however, in a very exciting and also strenuous last week, sending this
> > mail to the X2go-dev list simply got lost temporarily on my TODO list.
> > Sorry for that!!!]
> >
> > For those who are interested in the X2go public Git preparations: you
> > can watch the X2go developers (Heinz and Alex) work as they prepare
> > the latest X2go code for public Git at their sandbox site:
> > http://git.x2go.org
> >
> <snip>
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>   Nice work.  I just took a quick tour through the Git.  Looks good.
> Not quite all there but pretty far along.  This will certainly make
> things easier to collaborate.
>
>   I think I have a developer account over on Berlios somewhere.  I'll
> have to go find it and send it over to you.
>
> Regards,
> Gerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 07:41:22 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "--[ UxBoD ]--" <uxbod at splatnix.net>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] x2go python scripts
> Message-ID:
>        <2052809614.158.1288510882556.JavaMail.root at office.splatnix.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > On 10/30/2010 08:16 AM, Dick Kniep wrote:
> > > Hi Gerry,
> > >
> > > I donated 10 pounds and tested the current payed XMing code. However
> > > that code crashes almost as frequently as the GPL code. If you start
> > > a session with XMing and move your mouse a bit around, the X-server
> > > crashes (on Windows 7). I haven't tested on Windows XP or Vista.
> > >
> > > As I have written before, the python client will have a configurable
> > > X-server, so vcxsrv would certainly be tested!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Dick Kniep
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That Xming crash could be specific to Windows 7. Check XP when you
> > have
> > a chance and see if it happens there.
> >
> > Like the configurable X-server idea. Flexibility is a good thing.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gerry
> >
>
> I have been running the latest XMing code on XP for a while now and have
> had no issues. A colleague has upgraded his Windows 7 install, both
> fat-client and FF plugin, to use the new XMing as-well. We have been having
> real issues with the mouse disappearing every so often; in-fact for one of
> our clients it was happening multiple times per day. With the latest XMing
> release we have not seen the problem occur. However we are exploring all
> avenues and would love to be able to try x2go with vcxsrv.
> --
> Thanks, Phil
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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