[X2go-dev] Ubuntu, X, and Wayland

[Gerry Reno]

They are.  These types of questions are now starting to show up on many 
forums.   I also found a whole thread on this over at the Fedora 
development forum.  They were also asking these same types of things and 
much more in technical detail.  All of which is good.  For something 
that is going to have a huge impact on the Linux community I think 
getting input from all quarters is absolutely essential.  I think a lot 
of this Wayland stuff got started only because people were frustrated 
with the pace of changes by X.  But despite some of the issues 
concerning X the X guys have done a good job of maintaining 
compatibility for a huge number of systems for many years.  And when 
you're doing that, the pace has to be deliberate and considered.

Regards,
Gerry


On 11/07/2010 03:23 PM, brian mullan wrote:
>
> Gerry
>
> Good questions, but I think they would be best asked on the forums 
> related to the projects (ubuntu and wayland)?
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:14:01 -0400
> From: Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net <mailto:greno at verizon.net>>
> To: x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de <mailto:x2go-dev at lists.berlios.de>
> Subject: Re: [X2go-dev] How Wayland will handle X client & server
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> On 11/06/2010 08:44 AM, brian mullan wrote:
> > The Wayland FreeDesktop.org site
> > <http://wayland.freedesktop.org/architecture.html>
> >
> > gives a good description of how Wayland will work and how it is
> > supposed to support legacy X client/server transparently.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Having read through that site nowhere does it say that the Wayland 
> protocol is a network-aware protocol with the capabilities of the
> X-protocol.  It appears that in order to use full network-aware remote 
> displays that it still relies on an X-server and X-client.  If that is
> the case then there's not much to see here.  Just maybe some 
> undetermined performance improvement but at what expense?  There are no
> feature-by-feature or performance comparisons offered.  Just a 
> presentation of "oh look, we can wire up some existing things
> differently without using X".
>
> So let me ask, where does the GPU acceleration processing take 
> place?   If Wayland can support transparent network display clients 
> using the
> X-protocol (so we don't have to reinvent the world) and make use of 
> local (client) GPU hardware to speed rendering then this would be
> great.  But I haven't read that yet so I'm not very impressed at the 
> moment.
>
> Regards,
> Gerry
>
>
>
>
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