[X2go-dev] source code repository

Gerry Reno greno at verizon.net
Mon Jul 19 00:16:20 CEST 2010


On 07/18/2010 05:50 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:
> [ Please reply in context. ]
>
> Am Sonntag, den 18.07.2010, 17:36 -0400 schrieb Gerry Reno:
>
> […]
>
>    
>> The whole point of tool discussion in an open source project should be
>> what tools make it easiest for the community as a whole to contribute,
>> collaborate and participate in the project.
>>      
> If you have two main developers, I would take that into consideration.
> And since there is no big community yet, nobody knows what the community
> is going to prefer.
>    
As the community grows it will be composed of "open source" participants 
and contributors as it always is.  And these people are already familiar 
with Launchpad and SourceForge for the most part because they have been 
almost always participating and contributing in other open source 
projects which on average are hosted on one of those two forges.


>    
>> When you look at the massive success of forges such as Launchpad and
>> SourceForge that didn't happen accidentally.  It happened because these
>> forges are extremely good at providing all of the infrastructure,
>> collaboration tools, tracking tools, and source code management tools
>> for an open source project.
>>      
> I also heard of some projects moving away from those services.
>    
And that is not recently.  Yes, there were some capacity issues on the 
major forges for a while when they got entirely overwhelmed by their 
success.  Those issues have been resolved for quite a while now.  And 
recently you are seeing really big-name projects such as MySQL, MariaDB, 
and GNU projects moving onto Launchpad.

>    
>> To try and duplicate this type of free services using your own hardware,
>> software, and infrastructure is just not possible.  Why go back and use
>> 'bone knives and bearskins' with your own infrastructure and waste
>> countless valuable hours reinventing the wheel when you can have all
>> this handed to you on a silver platter for free?  I think this is why
>> hundreds of thousands of projects are using the forges and spending
>> their time thinking about their projects instead of all the necessities
>> of supporting an infrastructure.
>>      
> As I have already written.
>
> 1. Independence. There is the danger that you are locked into the
> project and depend on their reaction time. See the BerliOS and renaming
> the mailing list issues. Using a server for yourself you are in control
> of it.
>    
In control of a single point of failure.  Great.  And you could buy an 
electrical generator and make your own electricity.  And maybe a wafer 
production facility and make your own hardware chips.


> 2. As I have written. Maybe it is no overhead for Alex or Heinz since
> they need to administer a server and those services anyway. We both do
> not know that.
>    
That's their choice if they want to fiddle around with hardware.  But 
the project should not be based on developers 'single point of failure' 
server.  It needs to be placed at a forge service provider that has all 
the inhouse expertise to deal with hosting open source projects and the 
required infrastructure and services.


Regards,
Gerry




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