I see that there have been updates over the past year but its been a while (2+ yrs) since I last implemented & tried it. Also, keep waiting to hear more about mTeleplayer development.
Anyone have any recent experience with the x2go browser plugin or info on mTeleplayer state?
http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:advanced:x2goplugin
thanks Brian
On 24.08.2016 04:11 PM, brian mullan wrote:
I see that there have been updates over the past year but its been a while (2+ yrs) since I last implemented & tried it. Also, keep waiting to hear more about mTeleplayer development.
Anyone have any recent experience with the x2go browser plugin or info on mTeleplayer state?
Looks like I have bad news on that front...
X2Go Plugin will have to be deprecated, as Qt5 dropped support for the NPAPI browser plugin stuff completely. I could theoretically copy the Qt4 source code related to the browser plugin and compile a standalone version for that, but this would leave me with managing an outdated Qt4 source tree.
In the long run, distributions will drop Qt4 support and only ship Qt5, which means that the browser plugin will be dead at that point.
mTeleplayer is currently not updated anymore, as the original developer left the project in order to work within the Arctica realm.
Mihai
On Mi 24 Aug 2016 21:49:21 CEST, Mihai Moldovan wrote:
On 24.08.2016 04:11 PM, brian mullan wrote:
mTeleplayer is currently not updated anymore, as the original
developer left the project in order to work within the Arctica realm.
We are about to publish the first Arctica modules on Github in +/- two
weeks from now.
Among those there will be a rewrite of the Telekinesis Framework and
(maybe a bit later) a rewrite of the mTelePlayer (as aTelePlayer).
This is currently all work in progress to meet some deadlines.
However, all of that won't be X2Go'ish but rather Arctica'ish.
Mike
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Thanks Mike... I'd not heard about Arctica before now... is there a description posted somewhere?
Brian
On Aug 24, 2016 7:05 PM, "Mike Gabriel" <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> wrote:
On Mi 24 Aug 2016 21:49:21 CEST, Mihai Moldovan wrote:
On 24.08.2016 04:11 PM, brian mullan wrote:
mTeleplayer is currently not updated anymore, as the original developer
left the project in order to work within the Arctica realm.
We are about to publish the first Arctica modules on Github in +/- two weeks from now.
Among those there will be a rewrite of the Telekinesis Framework and (maybe a bit later) a rewrite of the mTelePlayer (as aTelePlayer). This is currently all work in progress to meet some deadlines.
However, all of that won't be X2Go'ish but rather Arctica'ish.
Mike
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Never mind I found the website...
https://arctica-project.org/md/docs/roadmap/
This looks to be awesome... I'm excited to see how it works..!!!
Brian
On Aug 24, 2016 7:30 PM, "brian mullan" <bmullan.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Mike... I'd not heard about Arctica before now... is there a description posted somewhere?
Brian
On Aug 24, 2016 7:05 PM, "Mike Gabriel" <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> wrote:
On Mi 24 Aug 2016 21:49:21 CEST, Mihai Moldovan wrote:
On 24.08.2016 04:11 PM, brian mullan wrote:
mTeleplayer is currently not updated anymore, as the original developer
left the project in order to work within the Arctica realm.
We are about to publish the first Arctica modules on Github in +/- two weeks from now.
Among those there will be a rewrite of the Telekinesis Framework and (maybe a bit later) a rewrite of the mTelePlayer (as aTelePlayer). This is currently all work in progress to meet some deadlines.
However, all of that won't be X2Go'ish but rather Arctica'ish.
Mike
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Is this intended to eventually replace X2Go?
James Pulver CLASSE Computer Group Cornell University
On 08/24/2016 07:44 PM, brian mullan wrote:
Never mind I found the website...
https://arctica-project.org/md/docs/roadmap/
This looks to be awesome... I'm excited to see how it works..!!!
Brian
On Aug 24, 2016 7:30 PM, "brian mullan" <bmullan.mail@gmail.com <mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Mike... I'd not heard about Arctica before now... is there a description posted somewhere? Brian On Aug 24, 2016 7:05 PM, "Mike Gabriel" <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de <mailto:mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>> wrote: On Mi 24 Aug 2016 21:49:21 CEST, Mihai Moldovan wrote: On 24.08.2016 04 <tel:24.08.2016%2004>:11 PM, brian mullan wrote: mTeleplayer is currently not updated anymore, as the original developer left the project in order to work within the Arctica realm. We are about to publish the first Arctica modules on Github in +/- two weeks from now. Among those there will be a rewrite of the Telekinesis Framework and (maybe a bit later) a rewrite of the mTelePlayer (as aTelePlayer). This is currently all work in progress to meet some deadlines. However, all of that won't be X2Go'ish but rather Arctica'ish. Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby mobile: +49 (1520) 1976 148 <tel:%2B49%20%281520%29%201976%20148> landline: +49 (4354) 8390 139 <tel:%2B49%20%284354%29%208390%20139> GnuPG Fingerprint: 9BFB AEE8 6C0A A5FF BF22 0782 9AF4 6B30 2577 1B31 mail: mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de <mailto:mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>, http://das-netzwerkteam.de
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Am 25.08.2016 um 16:11 schrieb James M. Pulver:
Is this intended to eventually replace X2Go?
We don't intend to cease development of X2Go any time soon. Of course, being a an open source project that heavily relies on its developer community, if the majority of the volunteer developers should decide to move to Arctica and leave X2Go behind, there's not much we can do about it. But seeing how both are open source projects, I would hope that there's no either-or.
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On 25.08.2016 04:11 PM, James M. Pulver wrote:
Is this intended to eventually replace X2Go?
Depends on what you're asking about. Traditionally, we have been using nx-libs, a fork of the NX libraries as published by NoMachine (back then when they still released the source code.) Changes to that have been tracked via quilt and patches then applied to the tree. The source tree itself included a private X.Org Server copy, into which NX changes were hooked/written. The latest version was/is based on X.Org 6.9 from 2008.
When Arctica was created by Mike Gabriel and other developers of X2Go, the intend was to shift development focus within this (Arctica) project to nx-libs, to clean it up, make development easier by directly changing the source tree, update the source tree to the current X.Org Server version and splitting off NX-only changes so that eventually we have 2 clean subsets: an unmodified X.Org Server tree (which could then be easily discarded) and NX files as a separate DDX (driver.)
With this architecture, nxagent could be pushed upstream tot the X.Org Server repository and maintenance be carried out there - with more man power, providing a better integration, immediate fixes when something else within the X.Org Server core source changes.
Also, with that, we could *finally* get nx-libs into Debian and Debian-based distros, which currently deny accepting these packages due to the huge complexity, size and maintenance work currently required (think CVE fixes/backports and other security fixes) due to including a full, very old X.Org Server source tree.
The plan for X2Go is to switch to nx-libs 3.6 as provided by the Arctica Project with X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 (which is also why that has been so delayed.) Currently, nx-libs 3.6 isn't released yet either, we've had only a 3.5.99 release in July.
Otherwise, Arctica plans to provide a generic(!) framework for Remote Desktop applications in the distant future, of which X2Go can be one provider or plugin. This philosophy differs hugely from X2Go's, which aims to provide wrappers (CLI and GUI) above the NX libraries (and maybe RDP support in X2Go Client, too.)
Hence, Arctica will never supersede X2Go, but rather provide an infrastructure/framework *for* X2Go and other Remote Desktop providers.
Mihai
Hi James,
On Do 25 Aug 2016 16:11:50 CEST, James M. Pulver wrote:
Is this intended to eventually replace X2Go?
James Pulver CLASSE Computer Group Cornell University
No, it is not intended to replace X2Go. X2Go will continue to exist
and is currently actively maintained. Arctica Project will bring forth
a new project with similar functionality, but not as a replacement. It
will be another product, suitable as alternative to X2Go.
The group of developers partially overlaps. Also people from Qindel in
Spain (their product is called TheQVD) are involved here, too (a third
solution). The Qindel Group currently sponsors great portions of the
development done in the Arctica Project.
Thanks+Greets, Mike
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