Stefan,
I know its easy for a non-dev to say because I don't have to change the code but I agree with you...
*> judging from this user feedback, maybe we should change our terminology?
"Detach" (German: "Trennen") seems to be less misleading than > "Suspend" (German: "Anhalten").*
"suspend" *implies* stopping something with the intent to restart later.
As Mike mentions, the problem *could be* solved by teaching people what x2go suspend currently means. That can work but to me... its not natural.
It reminds me of an old cartoon where a plumber had installed the hot & cold shower controls backwards (hot=cold, cold=hot)...
The plumber was talking to the homeowner telling him...
"Hey... its simple... when you take a shower just remember "H" means - Holy cow thats Cold ! <g>
Brian
Hi Brian, hi Stefan,
On Mi 17 Sep 2014 13:43:22 CEST, brian mullan wrote:
Stefan,
I know its easy for a non-dev to say because I don't have to change the code but I agree with you...
*> judging from this user feedback, maybe we should change our terminology?
"Detach" (German: "Trennen") seems to be less misleading than > "Suspend" (German: "Anhalten").*
"suspend" *implies* stopping something with the intent to restart later.
As Mike mentions, the problem *could be* solved by teaching people what x2go suspend currently means. That can work but to me... its not natural.
It reminds me of an old cartoon where a plumber had installed the hot & cold shower controls backwards (hot=cold, cold=hot)...
The plumber was talking to the homeowner telling him...
"Hey... its simple... when you take a shower just remember "H" means - Holy cow thats Cold ! <g>
Hehehe...
Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a renice feature.
That renice features renices all X2Go session applications, so the CPU
consumption will go down tremendously. It does not mean "anhalten"
(stop), but it probably would feel like it, if you could peak into the
"suspended" session.
Mike
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Am 17.09.2014 um 14:29 schrieb Mike Gabriel:
Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a renice feature.
Shouldn't this be made configurable, at least as a server-side global option? Some people might rely on their applications running at the same speed when detached.
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Hi Stefan,
On Mi 17 Sep 2014 14:32:04 CEST, Stefan Baur wrote:
Am 17.09.2014 um 14:29 schrieb Mike Gabriel:
Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a renice feature.
Shouldn't this be made configurable, at least as a server-side global option? Some people might rely on their applications running at the same speed when detached.
Sure, it will be (and already is). I am still just simply pondering if
it shall be on or off by default.
Mike
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Am 17.09.2014 um 14:37 schrieb Mike Gabriel:
Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a renice feature.
Shouldn't this be made configurable, at least as a server-side global option? Some people might rely on their applications running at the same speed when detached.
Sure, it will be (and already is). I am still just simply pondering if it shall be on or off by default.
For Debian/Ubuntu: On by default (assuming it's tested enough), and with a config question of sufficiently high priority that it *doesn't* install silently when the Debian/Ubuntu default configuration priority is set, and with a clear explanation what it does and where people should consider turning it off (batch jobs, number crunching, etc.).
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Its been a while since I've looked at this code but I seem to remember we added exclusion functionality that lets the system default be to renice on suspend, while select users can be excluded from renice on suspend.
On 09/17/2014 02:44 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:
Am 17.09.2014 um 14:37 schrieb Mike Gabriel:
Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a renice feature.
Shouldn't this be made configurable, at least as a server-side global option? Some people might rely on their applications running at the same speed when detached.
Sure, it will be (and already is). I am still just simply pondering if it shall be on or off by default.
For Debian/Ubuntu: On by default (assuming it's tested enough), and with a config question of sufficiently high priority that it *doesn't* install silently when the Debian/Ubuntu default configuration priority is set, and with a clear explanation what it does and where people should consider turning it off (batch jobs, number crunching, etc.).
-Stefan
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Am 17.09.2014 um 13:43 schrieb brian mullan:
"Hey... its simple... when you take a shower just remember "H" means - Holy cow thats Cold ! <g>
"And 'C' means 'Crap, that was Hot!'"
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