Hi,
I'm running the latest x2go server on Debian 7 Wheezy. I've got the x2go-printing package installed, as well as the cups-x2go package. Browsing is enabled in cupsd.conf. 'Client side printing support' is enabled in the client. And I've restarted the cups server, and logged out and back in after installing the print packages. But my printer is not appearing in MATE's list of printers. Is there something more I need to do?
This is operating over a vpn, so there is no firewall involved. And sound works fine.
Thanks for any assistance.
Steve Bergman Oklahoma City, OK. USA
On 06/28/2014 10:28 AM, Steve Bergman wrote:
I'm running the latest x2go server on Debian 7 Wheezy. I've got the x2go-printing package installed, as well as the cups-x2go package. Browsing is enabled in cupsd.conf. 'Client side printing support' is enabled in the client. And I've restarted the cups server, and logged out and back in after installing the print packages. But my printer is not appearing in MATE's list of printers. Is there something more I need to do?
This is operating over a vpn, so there is no firewall involved. And sound works fine.
Never mind. I found the documentation, and it's working fine. Haven't seen it print yet, since I'm out of ink. But it queues the job on the local client properly.
X2GO, like FreeNX before it, continues to be absolutely amazing. I have ~100 business users in 4 offices in 4 cities in 2 states doing all their daily office work in X2GO/MATE/Debian, and it just flies over the WAN. I just got finished watching (and listening to) Mike Gabriel's talk at Debconf on YouTube via X2GO over a 6mbit connection. Impressive.
-Steve
On Jun 28, 2014 5:39 PM, "Steve Bergman" <sbergman27@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/28/2014 10:28 AM, Steve Bergman wrote:
I'm running the latest x2go server on Debian 7 Wheezy. I've got the x2go-printing package installed, as well as the cups-x2go package. Browsing is enabled in cupsd.conf. 'Client side printing support' is enabled in the client. And I've restarted the cups server, and logged out and back in after installing the print packages. But my printer is not appearing in MATE's list of printers. Is there something more I need to do?
This is operating over a vpn, so there is no firewall involved. And sound works fine.
Never mind. I found the documentation, and it's working fine. Haven't
seen it print yet, since I'm out of ink. But it queues the job on the local client properly.
Great, I'm curious as to what the problem was. A link to the documentation step will suffice.
X2GO, like FreeNX before it, continues to be absolutely amazing. I have ~100 business users in 4 offices in 4 cities in 2 states doing all their daily office work in X2GO/MATE/Debian, and it just flies over the WAN. I just got finished watching (and listening to) Mike Gabriel's talk at Debconf on YouTube via X2GO over a 6mbit connection. Impressive.
Glad to hear it :)
We would appreciate it if you could describe your deployment story on a wiki page linked from here: http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:deployment-stories:start
If you do not have a wiki account, follow these instructions: http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:start
PS: I love MATE too. Mike#1 is a Debian Developer and a MATE developer, he helped get MATE into the Debian repos.
-Mike#2
On 06/28/2014 04:53 PM, Michael DePaulo wrote:
Great, I'm curious as to what the problem was. A link to the documentation step will suffice.
The documentation is great. I just hadn't read it. I was expecting the printers to be magically visible via CUPS's browsing protocol or something. But I like the way that it is done in X2GO, with the printer having a fixed name on the server. We have some cobol apps that don't understand CUPS, and need a static name hard-coded into a config file.
We would appreciate it if you could describe your deployment story on a wiki page linked from here:
I'll write something up. I'm actually pretty proud of this site. We've been doing all our business desktops remote to a central Linux Gnome 2 desktop server since the Fedora Core 3 days. We started out with VNC over a single T1. In retrospect, I can't believe that my users didn't lynch me for that, but it was the best I new how to do at the time. I soon found FreeNX. And even after all these years, I'm still amazed at the speed of NX's protocols.
PS: I love MATE too. Mike#1 is a Debian Developer and a MATE developer, he helped get MATE into the Debian repos.
We just moved to a new 20 core Xeon E5-2690 v2, 256GB ram, 6 drive RAID 10 box using the WD 15k rpm SAS drives. And I'm just delighted with everything. (Way overkill for 100 users, and the best present I ever got! ;-) But we'll be keeping it for 7 years.)
Debian 7, MATE 1.8, X2GO. Everything is just *perfect*. I can't think of anything more I could ask for.
After my search for a suitable DE for this new server, I was *so* thankful for MATE that I made a donation, and then turned around and made another. And I'm not a frequent donator to anything. But you and the MATE guys absolutely saved my bacon. No other combination would have been even remotely acceptable.
I'll definitely be checking out the Floss Weekly appearance. I'm always interested in anything about MATE and X2GO.
-Steve
Am 28.06.2014 23:39, schrieb Steve Bergman:
X2GO, like FreeNX before it, continues to be absolutely amazing. I have ~100 business users in 4 offices in 4 cities in 2 states doing all their daily office work in X2GO/MATE/Debian, and it just flies over the WAN. I just got finished watching (and listening to) Mike Gabriel's talk at Debconf on YouTube via X2GO over a 6mbit connection. Impressive.
"What Mike DePaulo (Mike#2) said" - let me just add one tiny bit of info/shameless OpenSource plug: Both of our Mikes (Mike Gabriel AKA Mike#1 as well as Mike#2) were on FLOSS Weekly a short while ago, so maybe you'd like to watch the recording of that, too: http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/events:start#section2014
-Stefan
Hi Steve,
On Sa 28 Jun 2014 23:39:34 CEST, Steve Bergman wrote:
X2GO, like FreeNX before it, continues to be absolutely amazing. I
have ~100 business users in 4 offices in 4 cities in 2 states doing
all their daily office work in X2GO/MATE/Debian, and it just flies
over the WAN. I just got finished watching (and listening to) Mike
Gabriel's talk at Debconf on YouTube via X2GO over a 6mbit
connection. Impressive.
then I have something delicious for you, as well:
Install a fresh machine as X2Go Server (e.g. with MATE).
Upgrade to X2Go Server from the nightly builds
Install mTelePlayer server-side (NEWEST stuff): apt-get install mteleplayer
Install PyHoca-GUI from the nightly builds on your Linux client:
apt-get install pyhoca-guiInstall the client-side part of mTelePlayer: apt-get install
mteleplayer-clientside
Open a (not too large, we are working on performance) video file (not
a video on a website, a real video file!) inside an X2Go session with
mTelePlayer and be happy...
Mike
PS: note that this is all highly developmental stuff... no warranty
given for now, at all!!!
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On 06/29/2014 10:13 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote:
then I have something delicious for you, as well:
Hi Mike,
This will be quite useful to us when it makes it into the stable version. I have managers who receive multimedia job interviews from prospective employees as embedded YouTube videos on applicant broker sites, where the applicant gives his or her sales pitch for themselves.
Fullscreen HD isn't necessary, as it's a job application and not a Star Wars movie. Good performance on just the standard size YouTube video should be fine for most business use, I should think. But the more efficient the better. I think we pay around 10x more for 10mbit than our employees pay for 55mbit cable in their homes.
It's very nice to see this kind of a push forward in X2GO development. FreeNX was fantastic. But it was at about the same place when I left it as it was so many years ago when I first deployed it.
NX really should be a huge priority for the OSS community. But for years and years, it's remained the greatest killer app that no one knows about. And I've never understood that.
BTW, did you think it was odd that Keith indicated at Debconf that he used ssh -C -X over the WAN and was satisfied with it? I tried bringing up MATE over an ssh connection last night, and ssh -C -X was just as excruciatingly slow as I remembered it being. Keith was the author of the LBX (low bandwidth X) many years ago. And he wrote up the first report I ever read informing us that the real problem with X over a WAN connection isn't bandwidth. It's latency. And he explained about all the round trips. He felt he could eliminate 90% of them, IIRC.
About that time I tried remote X over an external modem so that I could see. It was painful to watch all those requests and responses ping-pong back and forth on the modem lights. I expected Keith to be really excited about NX's solution to that problem.
-Steve
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