New subject: [X2go-user] X2go-user Digest, Vol 9, Issue 6

15 May 2011 · *is*

      Hi, Mike,
thanx for your answer - and sorry, I actually forgot the reminder on the Mailman-website regarding the language ... by the way: a bit strange since X2go is as well a german-based project (as far as I can see) as the main part of information on the web is in german, too ... ;-) but there may not be enough interest for a standalone german-list.
a brief conclusion (Mike, you got it fairly good!):

we are working on a (professional) project with server-based computing. The main interest is to supersede Microsofts RDP and Nomachines NX.
we tried X2Go with the Installation-documents from www.x2go.org on different virtual machines (Debian Lenny, Squeeze, Ubuntu) - the installation is more or less straightforward, but the documentation is unfortunately full of errors. But it *is* possible to get X2go to work on the serverside - and the LDAP-scripts are very good (so far as we can see)!
but none of the clients we tried worked :-( We tried those for MacOS on an 10.5.6-Intel-System, for Windows on a XP-System, and finally two clients for Ubuntu (x2goclient and x2goclient-gtk). It all results in more or less meaningful errormessages, crashes of the appliance and tine-outs on the client :-(

We have *not* yet tested the Webclient and the Netboot-Environment.
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Mike: I personally use X2go productively as a system administrator. In

all networks I administrate there is one desktop workstation that runs

x2goserver. I use GNOME or LXDE to access the network components from

this X2go server. I install x2goserver from the new squeeze repos and

everything works out of the box (sqlite). As clients I use x2gocleint
Sounds good! As we are documenting all the steps we execute in test-environments - do you have a (working! ;-)) step-by-step-documentation for, lets say, Squeeze?
Oh, of course: I could send you our three documentations (Debian Squeeze / Debian Lenny / Ubuntu) where we have written down all the errors and broken links and strange behaviours we have experienced with x2go.
...
I also work for a company in the Netherlands that uses X2go for

full-featured SaaS.
So there may be hope ... ;-)
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TRANSLATED: As an exchange we are willing to support with writing

documentation, providing Webspace, donate money - but there should be

a sort of usable installation method for X2go?! Currently, no one in

you team can imagine such a method. :-(
Basically, there has been quite some change in the team structure of

the project that might have lead or lead the situation you have

described in your mail (in German):
(a) 4 computer scientists from University of Erlangen have joined the project
team
(b) I also have joined the project team and contributed new code (Python)
that relates to X2go
(c) development has moved (and is still moving) over to Git based development
(d) code repository, package repository, wiki etc. have changed hosting and
technology (esp. package building)
Technically, due to different contributions there also have been

changes in concepts and code:
(a) due to security issues the x2goserver code underwent a complete rewrite;
for database setup - after taking a look at /etc/x2go - now use:
x2godbadmin --createdb
OK! √
...
(b) x2goserver-one and x2goserver-home are obsolete, use x2goserver package
instead.
OK! √
...
The default installation will be an sqlite based x2goserver.
For PostGres mode you have to configure the database part manually.
This, unfortunately, still lacks documentation
(c) x2goclient-gtk is deprecated. The development will focus on x2goclient
(qt4)
OK! √
...
(d) the new X2go Thin Client Environment (for squeeze) is currently under
heavy construction. I have a already 90% working setup under a

Skolelinux
test installation up and running. I currently also have a little project
with another company running that have asked for an X2go TCE

which I will
provide them in a week or so...
Sounds interesting!
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We probably should take your criticism very seriously with respect to

the mass of changes that have occurred recently and the lack of

transparent documentation for these changes in our Wiki.
as I mentioned before: we are willing to help with documentation, webspace, maybe money ? ;-) as long this is a serious project. On the other hand; there are damn few alternatives to X2go ...
Not to forget: of course we can pay for regular X2go-Support and give the results and experiences back to the community. And we understand that X2go is a very ambitious project with little ressources ...
greetings from the other side of the Eems! ;-)
toag

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