Questions over questions
I have installed: apt-get install x2gobroker-daemon
Call from the client x2goclient - debug - broker-url = http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile
8080 mean that a Web service must be running. but x2gobroker-daemon does not have port 8080 open. What do I need to?
I enclose my DebugLogs: x2gobroker-daemon-debug 2014-07-05 12:23:08,999 - broker - INFO - X2Go Session Broker (0.0.3.0), 2014-07-05 12:23:09,000 - broker - INFO - written by Mike Gabriel (X2Go Project) <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> 2014-07-05 12:23:09,000 - broker - INFO - Setting up the broker's environment... 2014-07-05 12:23:09,000 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_USER: x2gobroker 2014-07-05 12:23:09,000 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_DAEMON_USER: x2gobroker 2014-07-05 12:23:09,000 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_DAEMON_GROUP: x2gobroker 2014-07-05 12:23:09,001 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_DEBUG: True 2014-07-05 12:23:09,001 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_CONFIG: /etc/x2go/x2gobroker.conf 2014-07-05 12:23:09,001 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_AGENT_CMD: /usr/lib/x2go/x2gobroker-agent 2014-07-05 12:23:09,001 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_DEFAULT_BACKEND: inifile 2014-07-05 12:23:09,001 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_AUTHSERVICE_SOCKET: /run/x2gobroker/x2gobroker-authservice.socket 2014-07-05 12:23:09,001 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_SSL_CERTFILE: 2014-07-05 12:23:09,001 - broker - INFO - X2GOBROKER_SSL_KEYFILE:
x2goclient --debug --broker-url=http:// <http://localhost:8080/plain/inifile>10.255.120.23 <http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile>:8080/plain/inifile <http://localhost:8080/plain/inifile> (process:8646): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
(x2goclient:8646): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
(x2goclient:8646): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_register_object: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
(x2goclient:8646): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_register_object: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
(x2goclient:8646): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_get_unique_name: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
(x2goclient:8646): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_register_object: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
(x2goclient:8646): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_register_object: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
(x2goclient:8646): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_get_unique_name: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed Qt: Session management error: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported x2go-INFO-1> "Starting x2goclient..." x2go-INFO-4> "Übersetzung: :/x2goclient_de_ch installiert." x2go-INFO-5> "Übersetzung: :/qt_de_CH installiert." Falscher Parameter:--broker-url x2go-INFO-6> "X2Go Client wird geschossen..." Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben
Thanks Felix
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HI Felix,
On Sa 05 Jul 2014 12:38:50 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Questions over questions
I have installed: apt-get install x2gobroker-daemon
Call from the client x2goclient - debug - broker-url = http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile
8080 mean that a Web service must be running. but x2gobroker-daemon does not have port 8080 open. What do I need to?
By default, the X2Go Session Broker Standalone Daemon only binds to
localhost:8080.
If you want the daemon to bind against *:8080, please edit
/etc/default/x2gobroker-daemon.conf (on non-systemd systems) and
/etc/x2go/broker/defaults.conf on systemd-based Linux systems.
Mike
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Hi Mike Thanks. I have only one file: /etc/default/x2gobroker-daemon You mean this file?
vim x2gobroker-daemon # X2Go Session Broker configuration for Debian
# Uncomment to enable the X2Go Session Broker standalone daemon START_BROKER=true
# Bind standalone daemon to this address:port DAEMON_BIND_ADDRESS=10.255.120.23:8080
x2gobroker-daemon-debug x2goclient - debug - broker-url = http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile
Error is still the same. No response from the server. Greetings Felix
2014-07-06 0:43 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>:
HI Felix,
On Sa 05 Jul 2014 12:38:50 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Questions over questions
I have installed: apt-get install x2gobroker-daemon
Call from the client x2goclient - debug - broker-url = http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile
8080 mean that a Web service must be running. but x2gobroker-daemon does not have port 8080 open. What do I need to?
By default, the X2Go Session Broker Standalone Daemon only binds to localhost:8080.
If you want the daemon to bind against *:8080, please edit /etc/default/x2gobroker-daemon.conf (on non-systemd systems) and /etc/x2go/broker/defaults.conf on systemd-based Linux systems.
Mike
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Hi Felix,
Hi Mike
Thanks. I have only one file: /etc/default/x2gobroker-daemon You mean this file?
Yes.
vim x2gobroker-daemon # X2Go Session Broker configuration for Debian
# Uncomment to enable the X2Go Session Broker standalone daemon START_BROKER=true
# Bind standalone daemon to this address:port DAEMON_BIND_ADDRESS=10.255.120.23:8080
x2gobroker-daemon-debug x2goclient - debug - broker-url = http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile
Error is still the same. No response from the server.
I have just installed x2gobroker-daemon from the nightly builds as is.
Without any configuration, you should be able to contact the broker by
this command:
x2goclient --broker-url=http://localhost:8080/plain/inifile
If you install x2goclient and x2gobroker-daemon on the same machine.
Will the above x2goclient command work?
Regards, Mike
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Hi again,
On So 06 Jul 2014 19:35:25 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike Thanks. I have only one file: /etc/default/x2gobroker-daemon You mean this file?
vim x2gobroker-daemon # X2Go Session Broker configuration for Debian
# Uncomment to enable the X2Go Session Broker standalone daemon START_BROKER=true
# Bind standalone daemon to this address:port DAEMON_BIND_ADDRESS=10.255.120.23:8080
x2gobroker-daemon-debug x2goclient - debug - broker-url = http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile
Error is still the same. No response from the server. Greetings Felix
Please make sure you have the latest nightly built packages of
x2gobroker-daemon.
I have committed some stuff just now.
Mike
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Hi Mike Today, everything controlled restarted and it works!
Now I come to login to the x2goserver - Message:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
What do I do there? Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 0:22 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>:
Hi again,
On So 06 Jul 2014 19:35:25 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike
Thanks. I have only one file: /etc/default/x2gobroker-daemon You mean this file?
vim x2gobroker-daemon # X2Go Session Broker configuration for Debian
# Uncomment to enable the X2Go Session Broker standalone daemon START_BROKER=true
# Bind standalone daemon to this address:port DAEMON_BIND_ADDRESS=10.255.120.23:8080
x2gobroker-daemon-debug x2goclient - debug - broker-url = http://10.255.120.23:8080/plain/inifile
Error is still the same. No response from the server. Greetings Felix
Please make sure you have the latest nightly built packages of x2gobroker-daemon.
I have committed some stuff just now.
Mike
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Am 07.07.2014 16:32, schrieb Felix Hosner:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
Assuming that you're using SSH keyfiles, enter the password for said key.
If you don't use SSH keyfiles, un-check
"Try auto login (ssh-agent or default ssh key)" "Anmeldung über voreingestellten SSH-Schlüssel oder ssh-agent"
or replace "autologin=true" with "autologin=false" in the session config.
-Stefan
Hi Felix,
On Mo 07 Jul 2014 16:32:42 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike Today, everything controlled restarted and it works!
Now I come to login to the x2goserver - Message:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
What do I do there? Thanks Felix
Do you have broker-autologin set to "true" for that session profile?
Set it to off for now.
X2Go Client tries to unlock a key that has not been provided by the
session broker, I guess. I know, the error message is misleading...
Mike
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In which file? Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 16:54 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>:
Hi Felix,
On Mo 07 Jul 2014 16:32:42 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike
Today, everything controlled restarted and it works!
Now I come to login to the x2goserver - Message:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
What do I do there? Thanks Felix
Do you have broker-autologin set to "true" for that session profile? Set it to off for now.
X2Go Client tries to unlock a key that has not been provided by the session broker, I guess. I know, the error message is misleading...
Mike
DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148
GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de
freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das- netzwerkteam.de.xfb
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I Can not find the specified broker-autologin
2014-07-07 16:58 GMT+02:00 Felix Hosner <fhosner@computer-coach.ch>:
In which file? Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 16:54 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> :
Hi Felix,
On Mo 07 Jul 2014 16:32:42 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike
Today, everything controlled restarted and it works!
Now I come to login to the x2goserver - Message:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
What do I do there? Thanks Felix
Do you have broker-autologin set to "true" for that session profile? Set it to off for now.
X2Go Client tries to unlock a key that has not been provided by the session broker, I guess. I know, the error message is misleading...
Mike
DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148
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freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das- netzwerkteam.de.xfb
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Hi Felix
/etc/x2go/broker/x2gobroker-sessionprofiles.conf
Mike
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----- Original message -----
I Can not find the specified broker-autologin
2014-07-07 16:58 GMT+02:00 Felix Hosner <fhosner@computer-coach.ch>:
In which file? Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 16:54 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> :
Hi Felix,
On Mo 07 Jul 2014 16:32:42 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike
Today, everything controlled restarted and it works!
Now I come to login to the x2goserver - Message:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
What do I do there? Thanks Felix
Do you have broker-autologin set to "true" for that session profile? Set it to off for now.
X2Go Client tries to unlock a key that has not been provided by the session broker, I guess. I know, the error message is misleading...
Mike
DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148
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Hi Mike You mean that? #[pool-A-server-A] user=visor host=G0120-022:2222 name=GNOME - pool-A (srv-A) command=GNOME rootless=false #acl-groups-allow=gnome-users,admins #acl-groups-deny=ALL #acl-clients-deny=ALL #acl-clients-allow=10.1.0.0/16 #acl-any-order=deny-allow broker-session-autologin=false
Message is still Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 17:28 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>:
Hi Felix
/etc/x2go/broker/x2gobroker-sessionprofiles.conf
Mike
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----- Original message -----
I Can not find the specified broker-autologin
2014-07-07 16:58 GMT+02:00 Felix Hosner <fhosner@computer-coach.ch>:
In which file? Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 16:54 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> :
Hi Felix,
On Mo 07 Jul 2014 16:32:42 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike
Today, everything controlled restarted and it works!
Now I come to login to the x2goserver - Message:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
What do I do there? Thanks Felix
Do you have broker-autologin set to "true" for that session profile? Set it to off for now.
X2Go Client tries to unlock a key that has not been provided by the session broker, I guess. I know, the error message is misleading...
Mike
DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148
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freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das- netzwerkteam.de.xfb
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Hi Mike You mean that? #[pool-A-server-A] user=visor host=G0120-022:2222 name=GNOME - pool-A (srv-A) command=GNOME rootless=false #acl-groups-allow=gnome-users,admins #acl-groups-deny=ALL #acl-clients-deny=ALL #acl-clients-allow=10.1.0.0/16 #acl-any-order=deny-allow broker-session-autologin=false
Message is still Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 17:28 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>:
Hi Felix
/etc/x2go/broker/x2gobroker-sessionprofiles.conf
Mike
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----- Original message -----
I Can not find the specified broker-autologin
2014-07-07 16:58 GMT+02:00 Felix Hosner <fhosner@computer-coach.ch>:
In which file? Thanks Felix
2014-07-07 16:54 GMT+02:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> :
Hi Felix,
On Mo 07 Jul 2014 16:32:42 CEST, Felix Hosner wrote:
Hi Mike
Today, everything controlled restarted and it works!
Now I come to login to the x2goserver - Message:
"Bitte Kennwort eingeben, um den Schlüssel zu öffnen" "Please enter password to access the key"
What do I do there? Thanks Felix
Do you have broker-autologin set to "true" for that session profile? Set it to off for now.
X2Go Client tries to unlock a key that has not been provided by the session broker, I guess. I know, the error message is misleading...
Mike
DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148
GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de
freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das- netzwerkteam.de.xfb
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*Computer Coach GmbH * 3116 Kirchdorf, Thalgutstrasse 10 Tel. 031 782 12 00 Fax 031 782 12 02 fhosner@computer-coach.ch www.computer-coach.ch
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