Hello all,
Long time user of NX related programs for some time now. Mostly freenx, which has been driving me crazy lately. I am a staunch Debian user and feel that it's unlikely that freenx will ever enter main there. Hence my want to switch to X2Go. I've been following and trying to get this working for me too long now. The largest hurdle that is stopping me now is the inability to switch windows properly when using the windows X2Go client.
I keep a long running session open on a remote box and prefer to keep most of my work there. The problem is that I also have a need to switch back to my local desktop often. Typically I do this with the "magic" pixel or Alt + Tab. I'm also perhaps quirky in that I want my remote session to be full screen not windowed.
I do not experience this problem from a Linux laptop with X2Go or
PyHoca-Gui. I can switch windows, suspend, resume, et. al. just dandy!
My problem is with the M$ side of course. Starting the session is fine,
even resuming one started elsewhere. When I switch back to another
program though I can't get back to my session properly. Either I will
see part of my desktop (KDE if it matters) and the last program I was
using in windows will be covering the rest. Sometimes if I minimize
that program I will get my remote session back, not often though.
Typically what happens is I will get a small rectangle toward the upper left of my windows desktop. It may or may not have the minimize, restore, close widget displayed with it. When this happens the only way back to my remote session is to close the client and reconnect. This does work, far too painful to deal with.
Seems that I have just been babbling here. If I can describe it some other way, post logs, config, whatever I am willing to do that. A quick kick in the right direction would be appreciated. Server logs show nothing at any debug level that I see.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Mike
On 02/14/12 12:02, Mike wrote:
Hello all,
Mike
This info might be helpful also. Duh!
X2Go Client 3.99.1.0 PyHoca-GUI 0.1.0.10
X2Goserver 3.0.99.10-0~x2go1+squeeze~main~434~build1 pulled from packages.x2go.org/debian squeeze main
Mike
Hi,
On Di 14 Feb 2012 18:02:41 CET Mike wrote:
Long time user of NX related programs for some time now. Mostly
freenx, which has been driving me crazy lately. I am a staunch
Debian user and feel that it's unlikely that freenx will ever enter
main there. Hence my want to switch to X2Go. I've been following
and trying to get this working for me too long now. The largest
hurdle that is stopping me now is the inability to switch windows
properly when using the windows X2Go client.I keep a long running session open on a remote box and prefer to
keep most of my work there. The problem is that I also have a need
to switch back to my local desktop often. Typically I do this with
the "magic" pixel or Alt + Tab. I'm also perhaps quirky in that I
want my remote session to be full screen not windowed.I do not experience this problem from a Linux laptop with X2Go or
PyHoca-Gui. I can switch windows, suspend, resume, et. al. just
dandy! My problem is with the M$ side of course. Starting the
session is fine, even resuming one started elsewhere. When I switch
back to another program though I can't get back to my session
properly. Either I will see part of my desktop (KDE if it matters)
and the last program I was using in windows will be covering the
rest. Sometimes if I minimize that program I will get my remote
session back, not often though.Typically what happens is I will get a small rectangle toward the
upper left of my windows desktop. It may or may not have the
minimize, restore, close widget displayed with it. When this
happens the only way back to my remote session is to close the
client and reconnect. This does work, far too painful to deal with.Seems that I have just been babbling here. If I can describe it
some other way, post logs, config, whatever I am willing to do that.
A quick kick in the right direction would be appreciated. Server
logs show nothing at any debug level that I see.Any help is greatly appreciated.
@John Sullivan or maybe Stefan Baur: do you have any experience with
this??? A contribution is much appreciated!
Mike
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On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 21:08 +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote:
Hi,
On Di 14 Feb 2012 18:02:41 CET Mike wrote:
Long time user of NX related programs for some time now. Mostly
freenx, which has been driving me crazy lately. I am a staunch
Debian user and feel that it's unlikely that freenx will ever enter
main there. Hence my want to switch to X2Go. I've been following
and trying to get this working for me too long now. The largest
hurdle that is stopping me now is the inability to switch windows
properly when using the windows X2Go client.I keep a long running session open on a remote box and prefer to
keep most of my work there. The problem is that I also have a need
to switch back to my local desktop often. Typically I do this with
the "magic" pixel or Alt + Tab. I'm also perhaps quirky in that I
want my remote session to be full screen not windowed.I do not experience this problem from a Linux laptop with X2Go or
PyHoca-Gui. I can switch windows, suspend, resume, et. al. just
dandy! My problem is with the M$ side of course. Starting the
session is fine, even resuming one started elsewhere. When I switch
back to another program though I can't get back to my session
properly. Either I will see part of my desktop (KDE if it matters)
and the last program I was using in windows will be covering the
rest. Sometimes if I minimize that program I will get my remote
session back, not often though.Typically what happens is I will get a small rectangle toward the
upper left of my windows desktop. It may or may not have the
minimize, restore, close widget displayed with it. When this
happens the only way back to my remote session is to close the
client and reconnect. This does work, far too painful to deal with.Seems that I have just been babbling here. If I can describe it
some other way, post logs, config, whatever I am willing to do that.
A quick kick in the right direction would be appreciated. Server
logs show nothing at any debug level that I see.Any help is greatly appreciated.
@John Sullivan or maybe Stefan Baur: do you have any experience with
this??? A contribution is much appreciated!
<snip> Hi, Mike, et al. I do have issues with the way the Windows client handles keyboard grabbing. I tend to work exactly as the posting Mike describes and would prefer that <ALT><TAB> worked within the virtual desktop and that either or both the magic pixel and keyboard shortcuts (<CTL>M, <CTL>F) worked but I do not have this issue. I have seen what Mike describes but it is usually a network communications issue - very high latency or packet loss and happens on Linux as well as Windows. Hope that helps - John
On 02/15/12 16:26, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 21:08 +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote:
Hi,
On Di 14 Feb 2012 18:02:41 CET Mike wrote:
Long time user of NX related programs for some time now. Mostly freenx, which has been driving me crazy lately. I am a staunch Debian user and feel that it's unlikely that freenx will ever enter main there. Hence my want to switch to X2Go. I've been following and trying to get this working for me too long now. The largest hurdle that is stopping me now is the inability to switch windows properly when using the windows X2Go client.
<huge snip> Any help is greatly appreciated.
@John Sullivan or maybe Stefan Baur: do you have any experience with this??? A contribution is much appreciated!
<snip> Hi, Mike, et al. I do have issues with the way the Windows client handles keyboard grabbing. I tend to work exactly as the posting Mike describes and would prefer that<ALT><TAB> worked within the virtual desktop and that either or both the magic pixel and keyboard shortcuts (<CTL>M,<CTL>F) worked but I do not have this issue. I have seen what Mike describes but it is usually a network communications issue - very high latency or packet loss and happens on Linux as well as Windows. Hope that helps - John
First Thank you Mike and John for the response. I've narrowed this down
a bit more. My longshot hunch is that this lies with vcxsrv and not
X2Go client. I forgot to mention that the problem windows machine is
Vista Home Premium SP2. I pulled out a XP Home SP3 machine that is
heading out and put 3.99.1.0 preview2 on that. Disabled all sound,
tunnels, sharing etc. it works as it should. The Vista machine still
experience the same crap, no love for me... Finally in a near fit I
disabled nearly all the extra fluff that Vista comes with enabled. Aero
(or whatever their 3d junk is) isn't supported on this box anyway, all
the other wiz bang options are now disabled. Now I have a Vista that
looks like XP and all the sudden X2Go works a charm. I've lost the
magic pixel, but alt + tab will switch me out and back to my session.
Every machine that I've tried thus far will resume / suspend just
dandy. Most excellent!
Now maybe I'll go dust off the old iBook and see if a client will fire up on PPC.
Haven't tested PyHoca-GUI but I'm sure it will work now. If I can narrow down more what the problem is I'll post a reply to this for the archives. Still a rather strange problem.
Mike B