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Hi everyone,
I would like to inform you that we're planning to drop OS X 10.6 support this month or during the next few months (depending on your feedback), as part of our ongoing effort to streamline and automate the build process for X2GoClient's OS X versions.
Currently, we have to create a separate build for OS X 10.6, which, if we move to new (hosted and virtualized) build hardware, would probably double our monthly costs, so we're trying to avoid that.
Rationale: OS X 10.6 is no longer receiving security updates by Apple since February 2014.
For OS X 10.5, Apple ceased security support in September 2011. We continued to support OS X 10.5 in X2GoClient until April of 2012. That was a good 6 months over the official end of support from Apple's side.
Following that logic, we should already have dropped support for OS X 10.6 around August 2014, so it's long overdue to do so.
TL;DR: If you're currently using OS X 10.6 and have no plans or no way to upgrade to a newer release, please speak up now. We might consider providing OS X 10.6 builds of X2GoClient for longer if someone steps up and sponsors the work.
- -Stefan
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I don't know if you make a power PC Mac build, but power PC Mac'scan't upgrade past 10.5, and the early Intel Mac's like the PowerMac 1,1 can't upgrade past 10.7 officially. Unofficially it's possible by flashing the bios, using a special boot loader that translates 64-bit bios calls into the 32-bit bios the machine has, and a newer video card but that is totally unsupported by Apple. So no support for 10.5 will leave the PPC Mac folks out and 10.7 will leave the early Intel Mac's out unless they want to do like I did and load Linux on their Mac (which is a huge performance win).
On Thu, April 16, 2015 1:16 pm, Stefan Baur wrote:
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Hi everyone,
I would like to inform you that we're planning to drop OS X 10.6 support this month or during the next few months (depending on your feedback), as part of our ongoing effort to streamline and automate the build process for X2GoClient's OS X versions.
Currently, we have to create a separate build for OS X 10.6, which, if we move to new (hosted and virtualized) build hardware, would probably double our monthly costs, so we're trying to avoid that.
Rationale: OS X 10.6 is no longer receiving security updates by Apple since February 2014.
For OS X 10.5, Apple ceased security support in September 2011. We continued to support OS X 10.5 in X2GoClient until April of 2012. That was a good 6 months over the official end of support from Apple's side.
Following that logic, we should already have dropped support for OS X 10.6 around August 2014, so it's long overdue to do so.
TL;DR: If you're currently using OS X 10.6 and have no plans or no way to upgrade to a newer release, please speak up now. We might consider providing OS X 10.6 builds of X2GoClient for longer if someone steps up and sponsors the work.
- -Stefan
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Am 13.05.2015 um 03:17 schrieb nanook@eskimo.com:
I don't know if you make a power PC Mac build, but power PC Mac's can't upgrade past 10.5, and the early Intel Mac's like the PowerMac 1,1 can't upgrade past 10.7 officially. Unofficially it's possible by flashing the bios, using a special boot loader that translates 64-bit bios calls into the 32-bit bios the machine has, and a newer video card but that is totally unsupported by Apple. So no support for 10.5 will leave the PPC Mac folks out and 10.7 will leave the early Intel Mac's out unless they want to do like I did and load Linux on their Mac (which is a huge performance win).
We already dropped support for 10.5 long ago - in April 2012. No great disturbance in the Force was felt back then, not a single voice suddenly cried out in terror and was suddenly silenced. (with apologies to George Lucas)
Regarding the early Intel Mac's - I'm confused about what you wrote. If they can't upgrade *past* 10.7, then they can upgrade *to* 10.7, no?
And all we're discussing is dropping support for 10.6.
- -Stefan
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On 19.05.2015 10:44 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:
Am 13.05.2015 um 03:17 schrieb nanook@eskimo.com:
I don't know if you make a power PC Mac build, but power PC Mac's can't upgrade past 10.5, and the early Intel Mac's like the PowerMac 1,1 can't upgrade past 10.7 officially. Unofficially it's possible by flashing the bios, using a special boot loader that translates 64-bit bios calls into the 32-bit bios the machine has, and a newer video card but that is totally unsupported by Apple. So no support for 10.5 will leave the PPC Mac folks out and 10.7 will leave the early Intel Mac's out unless they want to do like I did and load Linux on their Mac (which is a huge performance win).
We already dropped support for 10.5 long ago - in April 2012. No great disturbance in the Force was felt back then, not a single voice suddenly cried out in terror and was suddenly silenced. (with apologies to George Lucas)
Regarding the early Intel Mac's - I'm confused about what you wrote. If they can't upgrade *past* 10.7, then they can upgrade *to* 10.7, no?
32bit-only machines can't upgrade to 10.7, so these users will be locked out. It's less tragic than it sounds, though, as applications targeting 10.7 (including X2Go Client) should have no big trouble with running on 10.6, too.
Any machine supported by 10.7 should be upgradeable to 10.8, 10.9 and 10.10, though restrictions based on the graphics card may apply. I don't know the details on that.
By the way, even 10.7 is officially unsupported by Apple as of last year. This said, we can still support it, because it comes at "no additional costs" regarding compatibility.
Mihai
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