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Dear Developers,
I'd like to invite you to assemble together and talk about the development of X2Go. I really think it is a good idea to have us all meeting at the same time, at the same place.
Of course there will be some issues about the place, because this will need to be a virtual place, so it might be a good idea to start with the quest for a suitable time.
I've created a wiki page for this task and would be glad if you could please tell us about when it is possible for you to join an online meeting:
http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:development:planning:schedule
You'll need to be a wiki user to sign the form and I'll add a new wiki user group for development aiding pages. All times are GMT based!!
Please don't start a discussion about the used service/protocoll yet, as we should have first made sure, that we'll be able to meet!
The collected Information will be shown to everybody - please let me know if this is a problem! The table will help to make suggestions for our meeting.
So thank you for your help,
Heinz-M. Graesing
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Hi Heinz,
On Mo 19 Jan 2015 06:13:26 CET, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
I've created a wiki page for this task and would be glad if you could please tell us about when it is possible for you to join an online meeting:
http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:development:planning:schedule
Thanks for sending this. I have just put in my availability during a
normal working week.
However, on Tuesdays (every second week) I could be available after
5pm UTC (which will be good for people from more western timezones
than GMT).
Mike
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Dear Developers,
Thank you very much for sharing your possible appointment opportunities. As you might have already noticed, I'm still missing in our list. I'll use the next days to work on an agreement with my employer to get a time slot suitable for as many of us as possible. Please stay tuned until I got news about this task.
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Hi Heinz,
On So 25 Jan 2015 17:59:02 CET, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
Thank you very much for sharing your possible appointment opportunities. As you might have already noticed, I'm still missing in our list. I'll use the next days to work on an agreement with my employer to get a time slot suitable for as many of us as possible. Please stay tuned until I got news about this task.
If my daytime/nighttime availability may be problematic for planning
those meetings, please feel free to plan without me for now.
If you come up with feasible timeslots from your side, I may check if
I somehow can squeeze the meeting time into my agenda (needs
coordination with my family).
Best, Mike
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Hello,
I'm happy to announce that it will be possible for me to invite you (developers) to our first interactive online meeting next Thursday (2015-02-05) 4pm to 6pm. I'll need to leave my workplace an will have only a 3g connection.
So as the most of us are already meet on on our IRC channel, I would suggest to meet there as a fall-back. I'll include a together.js instance inside the wiki pages too, but as this is not tested yet, the IRC channel #x2go should be the native communication base.
The date is chosen to make it possible for mike#1 to be part of this meeting. Mike offered his help to get more information about the services he is/was running - so please prepare some questions!
We should use this time wisely to learn about what is going on, what needs to be done and what remains - maybe - uncovered at the moment.
So I really hope to meet you next Thursday - Thank you!
Regards,
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Hi Heinz,
On Fr 30 Jan 2015 13:25:08 CET, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
(2015-02-05) 4pm to 6pm
works for me if it is UTC time.
Mike
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2015-01-30 7:37 GMT-05:00 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>:
Hi Heinz,
On Fr 30 Jan 2015 13:25:08 CET, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
(2015-02-05) 4pm to 6pm
works for me if it is UTC time.
Mike
Whether it is UTC or CET, I will be unable to attend.
-Mike#2
On 30.01.2015 01:25 PM, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
I'm happy to announce that it will be possible for me to invite you (developers) to our first interactive online meeting next Thursday (2015-02-05) 4pm to 6pm.
ACK.
So as the most of us are already meet on on our IRC channel, I would suggest to meet there as a fall-back. I'll include a together.js instance inside the wiki pages too, but as this is not tested yet, the IRC channel #x2go should be the native communication base.
Not sure if ACK, appear.in would be more appropriate. 3G is probably a deal breaker for that, though.
Mihai
P.S.: your GPG-Key expired...
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Am 30.01.2015 um 13:25 schrieb Heinz-M. Graesing:
So as the most of us are already meet on on our IRC channel, I would suggest to meet there as a fall-back.
Would you please clarify if you intend to meet on IRC (i.e. no phone conference call at all), or if you only intend to fall back to IRC in case your phone connection becomes flaky?
- -Stefan
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Hi all,
On Mo 02 Feb 2015 09:07:21 CET, Stefan Baur wrote:
Am 30.01.2015 um 13:25 schrieb Heinz-M. Graesing:
So as the most of us are already meet on on our IRC channel, I would suggest to meet there as a fall-back.
Would you please clarify if you intend to meet on IRC (i.e. no phone conference call at all), or if you only intend to fall back to IRC in case your phone connection becomes flaky?
/me personally prefers IRC-only meetings, as they are likely to be
more productive and to the point.
An IRC-only meeting can be easily posted to the x2go-project ML after
the meeting.
People with not-so-much-typing-speed should prepare written questions
/ contributions / statements in advance to that they can be easily
copy-pasted when appropriate.
When doing a phone conference, we
(1) should make sure that everyone can attend the call who wants to join in.
(2) should all be in IRC so that we can share URLs etc. with each other
(3) agree on someone responsible for a typed protocol that gets
sent to the ML(s) later
light+love, Mike
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On 02.02.2015 10:06 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote:
On Mo 02 Feb 2015 09:07:21 CET, Stefan Baur wrote:
Am 30.01.2015 um 13:25 schrieb Heinz-M. Graesing:
So as the most of us are already meet on on our IRC channel, I would suggest to meet there as a fall-back.
Would you please clarify if you intend to meet on IRC (i.e. no phone conference call at all), or if you only intend to fall back to IRC in case your phone connection becomes flaky?
/me personally prefers IRC-only meetings, as they are likely to be more productive and to the point.
Unfortunately, I have a different opinion about that one. Text-based communication tends to be very chaotic and moderating is neither improve productivity nor is there a good way to actually do this.
While IRC works great for up to three people, 10 people writing all at once is asking for trouble.
Moderating the channel to only have one person at a time as the active speaker (minus the moderator) will put stress on people and they even tend to forget what questions they had in the first place. Further, this way, no (constructive) input from other people can be handled in real-time.
An IRC-only meeting can be easily posted to the x2go-project ML after the meeting.
That's a valid point and an advantage of text-based communication... But I doubt people will want to dig through pages and pages to count of unfiltered IRC logs.
Mihai
On 2/2/15, Mihai Moldovan <ionic@ionic.de> wrote:
Unfortunately, I have a different opinion about that one. Text-based communication tends to be very chaotic and moderating is neither improve productivity nor is there a good way to actually do this.
While IRC works great for up to three people, 10 people writing all at once is asking for trouble.
I can suggest using some forum engine that supports tree structure of posts. I know at least one example of such forum and it's designed for fast-paced discussions (like in IRC) but tree structure helps to avoid chaos. From the first glance it looks like archive of mailing list but there's simple rule that makes difference: messages are grouped by thread ID instead of "Subject" field and if your message is short enough, you should put it into "Subject" field and leave body of message empty.
Slashdot may be a well known example of such approach.
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