Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system("kdialog --error \"@line[1]\"&");
It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde environment.
regards, Soeren
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Am 13.02.2012 11:02, schrieb Sören Plönnigs:
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system("kdialog --error \"@line[1]\"&");
It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde environment.
Disclaimer: I am not one of the coders.
While I'm currently using KDE (and Trinity), I'm absolutely with you that this shouldn't be hard-coded. And I do remember seeing a rather clever hack in a bash script once, that tried to figure out which dialog frontend to use (I think it tried Gnome, KDE, Xdialog and finally an xterm with regular dialog inside, if it detected an X Session, and regular dialog on the console, or something like that).
That was quite a while ago, though, so I don't exactly remember where that was.
It could have been in the "Terminate or Suspend" dialog on a FreeNX system. Or it was one of the system configuration menus in KNOPPIX (like where you could change network settings or install the system to disk).
Also, googling turned up http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ssft
Maybe this helps as a starting point for the coders involved?
-Stefan
Hi List,
Another way to find out which environment is present is with wmctrl. This utitlity gives information on the current window manager and could be used as a basis to determine the dialog that is to be shown.
Cheers,
DKniep
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is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system("kdialog --error \"@line[1]\"&");
It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde environment.
Disclaimer: I am not one of the coders.
While I'm currently using KDE (and Trinity), I'm absolutely with you that this shouldn't be hard-coded. And I do remember seeing a rather clever hack in a bash script once, that tried to figure out which dialog frontend to use (I think it tried Gnome, KDE, Xdialog and finally an xterm with regular dialog inside, if it detected an X Session, and regular dialog on the console, or something like that).
That was quite a while ago, though, so I don't exactly remember where that was.
It could have been in the "Terminate or Suspend" dialog on a FreeNX system. Or it was one of the system configuration menus in KNOPPIX (like where you could change network settings or install the system to disk).
Also, googling turned up http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ssft
Maybe this helps as a starting point for the coders involved?
-Stefan
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Am 13.02.2012 11:02, schrieb Sören Plönnigs:
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
And I do remember seeing a rather clever hack in a bash script once, that tried to figure out which dialog frontend to use (I think it tried Gnome, KDE, Xdialog and finally an xterm with regular dialog inside, if it detected an X Session, and regular dialog on the console, or something like that). Apart from Xdialog being unmaintained upstream for several years now,
Am 13.02.2012 12:03, schrieb newsgroups.mail2@stefanbaur.de: that's a possibility.
But why not use the notification deamon directly? That way you wouldn't need to find out, what desktop environment was running.
Oliver
Am 13.02.2012 11:02, schrieb Sören Plönnigs:
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
And I do remember seeing a rather clever hack in a bash script once, that tried to figure out which dialog frontend to use (I think it tried Gnome, KDE, Xdialog and finally an xterm with regular dialog inside, if it detected an X Session, and regular dialog on the console, or something like that). Apart from Xdialog being unmaintained upstream for several years now,
Am 13.02.2012 12:03, schrieb newsgroups.mail2@stefanbaur.de: that's a possibility.
But why not use the libnotify directly? That way you wouldn't need to find out, what desktop environment was running.
Oliver
Hi Oliver,
Am 13.02.2012 13:20, schrieb Oliver Burger:
But why not use the libnotify directly? That way you wouldn't need to find out, what desktop environment was running.
as far as I know, libnotify is gnome based only (http://developer.gnome.org/libnotify/) please tell me if I'm wrong?!
Regards,
Heinz
On 2012-02-13 11:02, Sören Plönnigs wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system("kdialog --error \"@line[1]\"&");
What about switching to zenity? It needs GTK, but opposed to KDE, that should be available on almost any system, shouldn't it?
Cheers Morty
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Am 13.02.2012 13:18, schrieb Moritz Struebe:
On 2012-02-13 11:02, Sören Plönnigs wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package? [...] What about switching to zenity? It needs GTK, but opposed to KDE, that should be available on almost any system, shouldn't it?
Well, I'm not Sören, but IMO it should not be hard-coded to any *dialog at all. My current systems, which obviously and admittedly are "historically grown", are Gnome-free and based on KDE. Which is probably why I never noticed that kdialog is hardcoded here, since everything worked for me. In the future, I'd like to move away from that and use a bare minimum install providing only the absolutely necessary binaries to my users (they're using rootless mode, so I don't need a full-blown desktop environment) - that should significantly reduce the required disk space and thus make updating/upgrading these distributed systems (spread across Germany, with some in rural regions with "DSL lite" connections) a lot easier...
I was hoping that I could do away with dialog-based scripts entirely, thanks to Alex' willingness to add a much-needed (by me, at least ;-)) feature to X2Go soon, but if there still is a need for some kind of *dialog, it should be configurable (and I'd probably use Xdialog on my machines, even though it is currently unmaintained).
-Stefan
Hi Morty,
On Mo 13 Feb 2012 13:18:42 CET Moritz Struebe wrote:
On 2012-02-13 11:02, Sören Plönnigs wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system("kdialog --error \"@line[1]\"&");
What about switching to zenity? It needs GTK, but opposed to KDE, that should be available on almost any system, shouldn't it?
Zenity is already used for all desktop environments which have a:
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID != ""
What we should do is patch the code in a way that the absence of
zenity and kdialog does not throw an error.
Patches are welcome!
Greets, Mike
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Hi Sören,
On Mo 13 Feb 2012 11:02:41 CET Sören Plönnigs wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system("kdialog --error \"@line[1]\"&");
It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde
environment.
In our Debian package I cannot see any dependency on kdialog. Do you
really mean package in the strict sense? Or do you mean, that the
absence of kdialog throws an error and this should handle differently?
Mike
<quote> Package: x2goserver Architecture: any Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, x2goagent, lsof, openssh-client, openssh-server, libconfig-simple-perl, makepasswd, libdbd-pg-perl, libdbd-sqlite3-perl, adduser, xauth, psmisc, net-tools Recommends: sshfs, x11-apps, x11-session-utils, x11-utils, x11-xfs-utils, x11-xkb-utils, x11-xserver-utils, xinit, x2goserver-extensions (= ${source:Version}) Suggests: x2goserver-printing (= ${source:Version}), x2goserver-compat (= ${source:Version}), x2goserver-xsession (= ${source:Version}), x2goserver-pyhoca (= ${source:Version}) Breaks: x2goserver-one, x2goserver-home, Replaces: x2goserver-one, x2goserver-home, Description: X2Go server daemon scripts X2Go is a server based computing environment with - session resuming - low bandwith support - LDAP support - client side mass storage mounting support - audio support - authentication by smartcard and USB stick . This package contains the main daemon and tools for X2Go server-side session administrations. . The x2goserver package provides full functionality for running the X2Go project's legacy X2Go client (x2goclient) on the client-side. . However, if you intend using other client implementations of X2Go make sure that you also have X2Go server extensions package (x2goserver-extensions) installed. </quote>
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Am 13.02.2012 13:47, schrieb Mike Gabriel:
Hi Sören,
On Mo 13 Feb 2012 11:02:41 CET Sören Plönnigs wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system("kdialog --error \"@line[1]\"&");
It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde environment.
In our Debian package I cannot see any dependency on kdialog. Do you really mean package in the strict sense? Or do you mean, that the absence of kdialog throws an error and this should handle differently? Hi Mike,
I'm not using Debian but Centos. As Jan Engelhard set up an repository on Opensuse Build Service, I wanted to try it out. There were some problems with the requirements while trying to install the packages and so I checked out the spec file which was used for packaging. In the spec file there was a dependency for kdialog which makes no sense in my eyes, so I asked Jan and he told me that there is an hardcoded call to kdialog in the x2goumount-session script. In my eyes it should be replaced by some kind of notify call to the xsession (I'm not into xorg programming, sorry if I'm getting something wrong and this doesn't work). Maybe using "which dialog" can also work, but I think using the notifying system of the window manager is more elegant. By the way, the x2go packages on the build service still have some issues. I'm trying to fix them right now and give back the changes to Jan. As he is an Suse developer he surely needs more testers for the packages for Redhat/Fedora.
Sören
Mike
<quote> Package: x2goserver Architecture: any Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, x2goagent, lsof, openssh-client, openssh-server, libconfig-simple-perl, makepasswd, libdbd-pg-perl, libdbd-sqlite3-perl, adduser, xauth, psmisc, net-tools Recommends: sshfs, x11-apps, x11-session-utils, x11-utils, x11-xfs-utils, x11-xkb-utils, x11-xserver-utils, xinit, x2goserver-extensions (= ${source:Version}) Suggests: x2goserver-printing (= ${source:Version}), x2goserver-compat (= ${source:Version}), x2goserver-xsession (= ${source:Version}), x2goserver-pyhoca (= ${source:Version}) Breaks: x2goserver-one, x2goserver-home, Replaces: x2goserver-one, x2goserver-home, Description: X2Go server daemon scripts X2Go is a server based computing environment with - session resuming - low bandwith support - LDAP support - client side mass storage mounting support - audio support - authentication by smartcard and USB stick . This package contains the main daemon and tools for X2Go server-side session administrations. . The x2goserver package provides full functionality for running the X2Go project's legacy X2Go client (x2goclient) on the client-side. . However, if you intend using other client implementations of X2Go make sure that you also have X2Go server extensions package (x2goserver-extensions) installed. </quote>
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Hi Sören,
On Mo 13 Feb 2012 14:06:48 CET Sören Plönnigs wrote:
I'm not using Debian but Centos. As Jan Engelhard set up an
repository on Opensuse Build Service, I wanted to try it out. There
were some problems with the requirements while trying to install the
packages and so I checked out the spec file which was used for
packaging. In the spec file there was a dependency for kdialog which
makes no sense in my eyes, so I asked Jan and he told me that there
is an hardcoded call to kdialog in the x2goumount-session script. In my eyes it should be replaced by some kind of notify call to the
xsession (I'm not into xorg programming, sorry if I'm getting
something wrong and this doesn't work). Maybe using "which dialog"
can also work, but I think using the notifying system of the window
manager is more elegant. By the way, the x2go packages on the build service still have some
issues. I'm trying to fix them right now and give back the changes
to Jan. As he is an Suse developer he surely needs more testers for
the packages for Redhat/Fedora.
Patch committed... http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=x2goserver.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cffebd0aab22890...
@Jan: please only use those dependencies that we use in the Debian
package. Please check /debian/control for further info:
http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=x2goserver.git;a=blob;f=debian/control
Greets, Mike
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