Hi there,
I'd like to re-discuss our registration policy. While I do agree that spam is a problem, at least I refrained from fixing mistakes in wikis several times because the registration was too complicated, or because it took days to get an account and by that time my motivation was gone. Thus I like to suggest to reopen the open user registration. To limit the spam I suggest adding a captcha plus auto-generating the password. I'd be willing to take care of the spam.
Cheers Morty
-- Dipl.-Ing. Moritz 'Morty' Struebe (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter) Lehrstuhl für Informatik 4 (Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme) Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg Martensstr. 1 91058 Erlangen
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Hi Morty,
On Mi 13 Mär 2013 09:23:20 CET Moritz Struebe wrote:
Hi there,
I'd like to re-discuss our registration policy. While I do agree that spam is a problem, at least I refrained from fixing mistakes in wikis several times because the registration was too complicated, or because it took days to get an account and by that time my motivation was gone.
That is a good point.
Thus I like to suggest to reopen the open user registration. To limit the spam I suggest adding a captcha plus auto-generating the password. I'd be willing to take care of the spam.
If you are willing to help out with user management on the wiki, I
think we can re-think the disabled user registration. The reason for
disabling was that none of us has the time and focus to regularly
check who is new and who is real.
The current version of dokuwiki also offers to mail targets: mails for
every change committed to the wiki and mails for new registrations. So
new registrations can be easily monitored via one's mail account.
@h1: what do you think?
Greets, Mike
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Hi Moritz,
Am 13.03.2013 09:23, schrieb Moritz Struebe:
Thus I like to suggest to reopen the open user registration. To limit the spam I suggest adding a captcha plus auto-generating the password. I'd be willing to take care of the spam.
I had to delete a lot of accounts, that were machine generated. Some of them managed to create advertisment pages inside the wiki.
I understand, that it will be frustrating having to wait until somebody takes care about someones registration.
The official "capture" plugin status of "Weatherwax" (our dokuwiki version) is unknown:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:captcha
Maybe we can talk about this topic again, when a new version of the plugin is released.
Regards,
Heinz
On 2013-03-13 19:28, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
Hi Moritz,
Thus I like to suggest to reopen the open user registration. To limit the spam I suggest adding a captcha plus auto-generating the password. I'd be willing to take care of the spam. I had to delete a lot of accounts, that were machine generated. Some of
Am 13.03.2013 09:23, schrieb Moritz Struebe: them managed to create advertisment pages inside the wiki.
I understand, that it will be frustrating having to wait until somebody takes care about someones registration.
The official "capture" plugin status of "Weatherwax" (our dokuwiki version) is unknown:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:captcha
Maybe we can talk about this topic again, when a new version of the plugin is released.
I did peek at the hooking-code and I don't see any reason why it should not work with the current version of dokuwiki. And even if not, it shouldn't be too difficult to fix that.
Morty
-- Dipl.-Ing. Moritz 'Morty' Struebe (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter) Lehrstuhl für Informatik 4 (Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme) Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg Martensstr. 1 91058 Erlangen
Tel : +49 9131 85-25419 Fax : +49 9131 85-28732 eMail : struebe@informatik.uni-erlangen.de WWW : http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~morty
Hi Morty, hi Heinz,
On Mi 13 Mär 2013 20:04:57 CET Moritz Struebe wrote:
On 2013-03-13 19:28, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
Hi Moritz,
Thus I like to suggest to reopen the open user registration. To limit the spam I suggest adding a captcha plus auto-generating the password. I'd be willing to take care of the spam. I had to delete a lot of accounts, that were machine generated. Some of
Am 13.03.2013 09:23, schrieb Moritz Struebe: them managed to create advertisment pages inside the wiki.
I understand, that it will be frustrating having to wait until somebody takes care about someones registration.
The official "capture" plugin status of "Weatherwax" (our dokuwiki version) is unknown:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:captcha
Maybe we can talk about this topic again, when a new version of the plugin is released.
I did peek at the hooking-code and I don't see any reason why it should not work with the current version of dokuwiki. And even if not, it shouldn't be too difficult to fix that.
Morty
Until there is no captcha officially available, I'd say let us stay
with the current registration workflow. I normally am pretty quick
with replies on requests, and if also Morty joins in with wiki
administration, then we are already three.
Greets, Mike
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On 2013-03-14 08:45, Mike Gabriel wrote:
Hi Morty, hi Heinz,
On Mi 13 Mär 2013 20:04:57 CET Moritz Struebe wrote:
On 2013-03-13 19:28, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote:
Hi Moritz,
Thus I like to suggest to reopen the open user registration. To limit the spam I suggest adding a captcha plus auto-generating the password. I'd be willing to take care of the spam. I had to delete a lot of accounts, that were machine generated. Some of
Am 13.03.2013 09:23, schrieb Moritz Struebe: them managed to create advertisment pages inside the wiki.
I understand, that it will be frustrating having to wait until somebody takes care about someones registration.
The official "capture" plugin status of "Weatherwax" (our dokuwiki version) is unknown:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:captcha
Maybe we can talk about this topic again, when a new version of the plugin is released.
I did peek at the hooking-code and I don't see any reason why it should not work with the current version of dokuwiki. And even if not, it shouldn't be too difficult to fix that.
Morty
Until there is no captcha officially available, I'd say let us stay with the current registration workflow. I normally am pretty quick with replies on requests, and if also Morty joins in with wiki administration, then we are already three.
This is a normal plugin - just like the other plugins installed - and it's unlikely there will ever be an "official" plugin. I assume the author just didn't bother to add the appropriate flag. And as I said: I did look at the code and it's a fail or work thing: Either the hooks work or the they don't. Also there are no comments about the plugin not working, something that normally happens pretty quickly. If you don't want official registration just say so, but please don't bring up meta-arguments....
Morty
-- Dipl.-Ing. Moritz 'Morty' Struebe (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter) Lehrstuhl für Informatik 4 (Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme) Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg Martensstr. 1 91058 Erlangen
Tel : +49 9131 85-25419 Fax : +49 9131 85-28732 eMail : struebe@informatik.uni-erlangen.de WWW : http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~morty
On 2013-03-14 09:13, Moritz Struebe wrote:
If you don't want official registration just say so, but please don't bring up meta-arguments....
" If no GPG-fingerprint is given, we will have to find another way to provide your initial password to you. " [1]
...you really try to turn people off, do you?
Morty
[1] http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:start#x2go_wiki_signing_up
-- Dipl.-Ing. Moritz 'Morty' Struebe (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter) Lehrstuhl für Informatik 4 (Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme) Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg Martensstr. 1 91058 Erlangen
Tel : +49 9131 85-25419 Fax : +49 9131 85-28732 eMail : struebe@informatik.uni-erlangen.de WWW : http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~morty
Hi Morty,
On Mo 18 Mär 2013 08:38:33 CET Moritz Struebe wrote:
On 2013-03-14 09:13, Moritz Struebe wrote:
If you don't want official registration just say so, but please don't bring up meta-arguments....
" If no GPG-fingerprint is given, we will have to find another way to provide your initial password to you. " [1]
...you really try to turn people off, do you?
Morty
Changed to:
"""
The account will then be created for you within the next couple of
days. If a GPG fingerprint has been provided, your initial password
will be sent to you in an encrypted mail. If no GPG-fingerprint is
given, an unencrypted mail with your initial password will be sent to
you.
Either way, please change the initial password immediately after retrieval. """
Mike
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