Hi all,
I'm thinking about removing ESD support from x2goclient altogether.
During my recent deep changes to the PulseAudio integration for X2goclient on both Windows and Mac OS X, I came across the ESD sound support. On Windows, ESD was supported through the PulseAudio wrapper, while OS X was totally broken anyway.
Testing ESD support proves to be difficult, and I'm thinking about removing it completely.
Most Linux distributions have already removed esd (and tools) from their repo, or rather replaced it by the PulseAudio esd compat layer. That's especially true for Ubuntu, but also Debian Testing and Unstable (Debian Stable still has esd for x86 and amd64 arches, but this will be dropped in favor of PulseAudio in the upcoming release.)
That said, I'd like to know whether users are still using esd or not. I wouldn't feel comfortable removing a feature still in use. Please report, if you find the time.
Best regards,
Mihai
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:27 +0200, Mihai Moldovan wrote:
Hi all,
I'm thinking about removing ESD support from x2goclient altogether.
During my recent deep changes to the PulseAudio integration for X2goclient on both Windows and Mac OS X, I came across the ESD sound support. On Windows, ESD was supported through the PulseAudio wrapper, while OS X was totally broken anyway.
Testing ESD support proves to be difficult, and I'm thinking about removing it completely.
Most Linux distributions have already removed esd (and tools) from their repo, or rather replaced it by the PulseAudio esd compat layer. That's especially true for Ubuntu, but also Debian Testing and Unstable (Debian Stable still has esd for x86 and amd64 arches, but this will be dropped in favor of PulseAudio in the upcoming release.)
That said, I'd like to know whether users are still using esd or not. I wouldn't feel comfortable removing a feature still in use. Please report, if you find the time. <snip> Removing it is fine by me - John
Hi Mihai,
On Mi 13 Jun 2012 19:29:39 CEST "John A. Sullivan III" wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:27 +0200, Mihai Moldovan wrote:
Hi all,
I'm thinking about removing ESD support from x2goclient altogether.
During my recent deep changes to the PulseAudio integration for
X2goclient on both Windows and Mac OS X, I came across the ESD sound support. On
Windows, ESD was supported through the PulseAudio wrapper, while OS X was
totally broken anyway.Testing ESD support proves to be difficult, and I'm thinking about
removing it completely.Most Linux distributions have already removed esd (and tools) from
their repo, or rather replaced it by the PulseAudio esd compat layer. That's
especially true for Ubuntu, but also Debian Testing and Unstable (Debian Stable
still has esd for x86 and amd64 arches, but this will be dropped in favor of
PulseAudio in the upcoming release.)That said, I'd like to know whether users are still using esd or
not. I wouldn't feel comfortable removing a feature still in use. Please report, if
you find the time. <snip> Removing it is fine by me - John
Let us do that in two steps.
Now: add an alert Window if someone chooses ESD in the session profile. in 6-12 months: remove the feature.
Mike
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- On 13.06.2012 08:11 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote:
Let us do that in two steps.
Now: add an alert Window if someone chooses ESD in the session profile. in 6-12 months: remove the feature.
Something like that was implicit... sure, I won't delete it right away. Actually, I was interested in user opinions. There's no way I'd even think about removal if there are legitimate use cases out there (and for what it's worth, testing indicates that ESD still works fine via the PA esound emulation in the client.)
Best regards,
Mihai
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Mihai Moldovan <ionic@ionic.de> wrote:
That said, I'd like to know whether users are still using esd or not. I wouldn't feel comfortable removing a feature still in use. Please report, if you find the time.
I think it is a good idea to remove ESD support. Especially if it allows you to concentrate your time on PulseAudio support, since there are long-standing bugs in PA on the Windows x2goclient that need (needed? not sure if you fixed them yet, since windows x2goclient binary has not been updated in a while) fixing.
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